Question for those with OEM wheels, but Mich 4s Tires

IneedAZ · 02-04-2019, 07:26 AM

I noticed my rims right now don't have much wheel weights on them and i am about to switch to the Mich Pilot Sport 4s and curious if you had to use much more in weights? Also, do you know how they got the old weights off and what did you do to get the old sticky off from them?

Can'tHave2MuchHP · 02-04-2019, 08:17 AM

Michelins are high quality tires and usually don't take much weight to balance them, any mechanic that changes tires often will have no issue doing it right.

KLR ZL1 · 02-04-2019, 08:46 AM

I had mine installed last year before C Fest. The only think is tell them to be careful not to scratch the barrels when removing the weights. They should also be able to remove the glue.

gotswap · 02-04-2019, 10:05 AM

they should be using a nylon knife to get the weights of, no?

DANACO · 02-04-2019, 10:18 AM

I was concerned when I noticed two of my wheels had no weights at all after mounting the P4S tires, the guy told me they’ll be perfect, he was right ! I’d still say this is an extraordinary exception. The other two I believe have just one section of tape weight on each.
As for removing the old weights, yes, a nylon knife or sharp nylon chisele with something like goof off to help with the adhesive.

IneedAZ · 02-04-2019, 10:33 AM

I have a multi piece trim removal kit, do u think one of those pieces will work. I have no idea what the shop has on hand. I do plan to stop by and ask them.

karmatourer · 02-04-2019, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by IneedAZ

I have a multi piece trim removal kit, do u think one of those pieces will work. I have no idea what the shop has on hand. I do plan to stop by and ask them.

When you stop by,bring your kit with you for peace of mind,just in case.

IneedAZ · 02-06-2019, 08:06 PM

One more question. I see three listings for the rear tire. Regular, Audi, and Porsche. Is there a downside or benefit to running the Porsche rear over the regular?

full*throttle*therapy · 02-06-2019, 08:59 PM

Here is a tip I heard long ago:

Every tire has a mark on it from the factory indicating the "heavy" spot. If you are able to mount the wheel with the "heavy" spot 180deg from the valve stem/tpms sensor you will /always/ require less weight. It makes sense to me, I ask for that when I get new tires, but generally just get a blank stares.

kwav8r · 02-07-2019, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by full*throttle*therapy

Here is a tip I heard long ago:

Every tire has a mark on it from the factory indicating the "heavy" spot.

What does this magical mark look like? Inquiring minds want to know...

gotswap · 02-07-2019, 01:24 PM

it is just a dot close to the bead, put it 180 out from the stem

17CamaroZL1 · 02-07-2019, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by kwav8r

What does this magical mark look like? Inquiring minds want to know...

Top left of the tire near the bead

DevilsReject97 · 02-07-2019, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by IneedAZ

I noticed my rims right now don't have much wheel weights on them and i am about to switch to the Mich Pilot Sport 4s and curious if you had to use much more in weights? Also, do you know how they got the old weights off and what did you do to get the old sticky off from them?

Dont use the stock size for the fronts, you want 295's, not 285's. The 295's in PS4S match the stock tire width...

The 285 is about an inch narrower, and while it's not life or death, I would have gone with the 295 had I remember it at the time..

Canadian ZL1 · 02-07-2019, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DevilsReject97

Dont use the stock size for the fronts, you want 295's, not 285's. The 295's in PS4S match the stock tire width...

The 285 is about an inch narrower, and while it's not life or death, I would have gone with the 295 had I remember it at the time..

Interesting...so 295/30/20 instead of 285/30/20. I will look at what the height is but assuming no clearance issues from that perspective?

02-04-2019, 07:26 AM	#1
IneedAZ Drives: 2017 ZL1 A10 & 2021 BMW M340i x Dr Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Tampa Posts: 5,111 View My Garage	Question for those with OEM wheels, but Mich 4s Tires I noticed my rims right now don't have much wheel weights on them and i am about to switch to the Mich Pilot Sport 4s and curious if you had to use much more in weights? Also, do you know how they got the old weights off and what did you do to get the old sticky off from them? __________________ Sold 2012 2LT RS 12.3@112 old setup Sold 1967 Camaro Pro Street. Ran 10's mild BB on NOS. 2017 HyperBlue ZL1 A10 Born 3/17/17Delivered 4/08/17 2020 Build: Mag2650, BTR Stage2, NW103, BG, 14% lower, 90mm upper, ARH 2" Long system w/no cats, SW Legend mufflers. 807hp/762tq on 93 gas and 848hp/792tq on e47 Sold 2018 (Go Mango) Dodge Charger Daytona 392 Daily Driver Daily Driver 2021 BMW M340i Xdrive

02-04-2019, 08:46 AM	#3
KLR ZL1 H-Town Camaro Club Member Drives: 17 Hyper Blue Metallic KLR-ZL1 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Pearland Tx. Posts: 2,035 View My Garage	I had mine installed last year before C Fest. The only think is tell them to be careful not to scratch the barrels when removing the weights. They should also be able to remove the glue. __________________

02-04-2019, 10:33 AM	#6
IneedAZ Drives: 2017 ZL1 A10 & 2021 BMW M340i x Dr Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Tampa Posts: 5,111 View My Garage	I have a multi piece trim removal kit, do u think one of those pieces will work. I have no idea what the shop has on hand. I do plan to stop by and ask them. __________________ Sold 2012 2LT RS 12.3@112 old setup Sold 1967 Camaro Pro Street. Ran 10's mild BB on NOS. 2017 HyperBlue ZL1 A10 Born 3/17/17Delivered 4/08/17 2020 Build: Mag2650, BTR Stage2, NW103, BG, 14% lower, 90mm upper, ARH 2" Long system w/no cats, SW Legend mufflers. 807hp/762tq on 93 gas and 848hp/792tq on e47 Sold 2018 (Go Mango) Dodge Charger Daytona 392 Daily Driver Daily Driver 2021 BMW M340i Xdrive

02-06-2019, 08:06 PM	#8
IneedAZ Drives: 2017 ZL1 A10 & 2021 BMW M340i x Dr Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Tampa Posts: 5,111 View My Garage	One more question. I see three listings for the rear tire. Regular, Audi, and Porsche. Is there a downside or benefit to running the Porsche rear over the regular? __________________ Sold 2012 2LT RS 12.3@112 old setup Sold 1967 Camaro Pro Street. Ran 10's mild BB on NOS. 2017 HyperBlue ZL1 A10 Born 3/17/17Delivered 4/08/17 2020 Build: Mag2650, BTR Stage2, NW103, BG, 14% lower, 90mm upper, ARH 2" Long system w/no cats, SW Legend mufflers. 807hp/762tq on 93 gas and 848hp/792tq on e47 Sold 2018 (Go Mango) Dodge Charger Daytona 392 Daily Driver Daily Driver 2021 BMW M340i Xdrive

02-04-2019, 08:17 AM	#2
Can'tHave2MuchHP Drives: Fast Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Michigan Posts: 3,696	Michelins are high quality tires and usually don't take much weight to balance them, any mechanic that changes tires often will have no issue doing it right.

02-04-2019, 10:05 AM	#4
gotswap Drives: 2019 ZL1 Crush Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 564	they should be using a nylon knife to get the weights of, no?

02-04-2019, 10:18 AM	#5
DANACO Drives: 18 ZL1 Join Date: May 2018 Location: Denver Posts: 220 View My Garage	I was concerned when I noticed two of my wheels had no weights at all after mounting the P4S tires, the guy told me they’ll be perfect, he was right ! I’d still say this is an extraordinary exception. The other two I believe have just one section of tape weight on each. As for removing the old weights, yes, a nylon knife or sharp nylon chisele with something like goof off to help with the adhesive.

02-06-2019, 08:59 PM	#9
fullthrottletherapy Drives: '18 RH ZL1 1LE Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: On The Edge Posts: 323	Here is a tip I heard long ago: Every tire has a mark on it from the factory indicating the "heavy" spot. If you are able to mount the wheel with the "heavy" spot 180deg from the valve stem/tpms sensor you will /always/ require less weight. It makes sense to me, I ask for that when I get new tires, but generally just get a blank stares.

02-07-2019, 01:24 PM	#11
gotswap Drives: 2019 ZL1 Crush Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 564	it is just a dot close to the bead, put it 180 out from the stem

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