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Originally Posted by Number 3
Ok just to check what features on a Cadillac do you guys think don't belong on a highly optioned Gen 6 Camaro? Keep in mind the Gen5 launched with NO NAV, NO height adjustable passenger seat crappy sun visors, etc.
Go down the option list for features available on an Impala and you will see a long list of things not currently on the Camaro.......that should AND will be. Doesn't make it a Cadillac. GM will fail to exist if they continue to think the way to differentiate Cadillac and Chevy is to just hold back common every day feature available on Ford and Toyota.
And I'll say it again if an LT1 8 speed SS Camaro weighs less than 3650 pounds and costs within 10% of a current car you will have one of the most incredible engineering feets in auto history.
Keep in mind a C7 with an aluminum frame and Carbon Fiber is weighing in over 3,300 pounds now. How on earth can anyone think a Camaro can weigh within 200 pounds of that without costing an arm and a leg?
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The Cady comes with leather, power passenger seat and premium sound system standard just to name a few. Those kind of options should be optional so that a Camaro starts out cheaper. I think the 6th gen should have a ton of cool options available but don't force buyers to pay for them if they don't want them. I like the way Ford has done the optioning on the Mustang. You can actually get a bare bones Mustang if you want with manual driver/passenger seat, no Sync or Bluetooth. Just a basic car tech wise. You could then add Brembo package, Recaro's, and a performance package for a all business car or save a ton of money and have a base car. That's the way GM should approach the 6th gen as well. This saves weight and expense if you don't want those items but gives you the ability to option them out if you desire.
The ATS with V6 is 3461lbs. There is no reason in the world that GM can't make a SS on the same chassis to be 3650. The chassis is already built. The r and d and mfg money has already been spent. It should not cost them much to use it on the 6th gen.
If the c7 had got the weight savings technology with no other changes it would have lost 150lbs or been in the 3000lb area. The problem is that it gained something like 70lbs in interior/comfort/tech standard upgrades. The rest was mechanical upgrades. So long as they don't force those fancy upgrades on the 6th gen it will be fine price wise and weight wise. It will be cool to have those kinds of options but ONLY if you specifically order it with them and want them.