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Old 09-27-2017, 12:53 AM   #1
JaxChris

 
Drives: '16 2SS GD1 MX0 NPP F55 IO6
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Location: Florida
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Turn 2019+ into a Camaro "Grand Sport"

Please unpackage the Camaro and drop the base prices on the refresh. Mustang wins the bottom end in the 6th gen battle and that is what is driving their sales to squash Camaro. And low sales means low aftermarket attention, which hurts enthusiast buyers as well.

And on the subject of unpackaging the Camaro, some of the higher end Camaro trims could benefit from an organized hierarchy of option packages. I've read the articles where people at GM has mentioned stripping down the entry points a little more. I think it would actually be better if there was no more LS/LT/SS trimming at all. Make them all Camaro again and move the engines into the option packages.

The Camaro could take one more bit of inspiration from the Corvette -- the Grand Sport. It is the best Corvette, hands down. They let you have everything from Z06/Z07 without the premium of paying for the boosted engine. If Camaro was a truly modular ordering form, I think it would shake down like this:

-Engine
LTQ
LGX
LT1
LT7 (rumored)

-Transmission
TR3160
TR6060 (requires V8 engine or V6 & 1LE)
TR6070 (requires LT7 or LT1 & 1LE)
10L80
10R90 (requires LT7 or LT1 & 1LE)

-Chassis
Coupe
Convertible (not available with 1LE)

-Tier 1 Packages
Performance Tech = HUD, 8"+ Display, Upgraded DIC, Drive Modes
Convenience Tech = Homelink, Heated/Vented Seats, Automatic Climate Control, Front&Rear Parking Cameras, Auto Dim Mirrors
Safety Tech = Front&Rear Parking Sensors, Blindspot, Dual Stage Airbags, Inflatable Seatbelts, Adaptive Cruise Control, Auto High Beams, Auto Wipers

-1LE (requires Performance Tech & NPP plus either MRC or DSV)
Expanded Drive Modes, ZL1 suspension parts, eLSD, ZL1 fascia/fenders, expanded heat exchangers/capacity, wider wheels & tires

-FFM
Flex Fuel Management, enables dual fuel maps to support higher output with E85, at a lower fuel economy

-MRC
Magnetic Ride Control, independent option

-NPP
Dual Mode Exhaust, Requires Performance Tech (not available on LTQ)

-NAV
Navigation software & GPS antenna upgrade

-PDR
Requires 1LE & NAV

-Z28
Higher displacement NA engine, independent option, no prereq's

-2LE
ZL1-1LE aero upgrade plus even wider wheels & tires, requires 1LE

-DSV
ZL1-1LE suspension upgrade, requires 1LE

-AMP
Upgraded radio amplifier & speakers

-AMB
Ambient lighting kit (tell HELLA they need to offer some underbody LED strips that clip into that signal wire, they promised them 3 years ago and never delivered)


The ZL1 is untouched in this because, like the Z06, it is the whole enchilada and should be max kitted like the SS sedan was, leaving only roof/transmission choices plus a track pack (1LE) and possibly a ZR1-esque higher output engine package.



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Old Questions - bad thread title
Pretty much exclusively around the 6th Gen refresh, since nothing can be done about the bugs in the 2016.

1. Will the 8L90 be replaced with the 10L90, following Ford's update?
2. Will we finally be able to get 1LE/PDR with an automatic? Why even have a track mode on the automatic if we can't have the track package?
3. Can the differences between 1SS and 2SS become smaller package groups instead of all or nothing? Not really loving the leather in my 2016 2SS, would prefer sport cloth ventilated seats.
4. 360 degree camera or at least a front lip camera? Paired with a forward ultrasonic parking sensor that would activate the camera on the infotainment display would be a nice approach.
5. Interior cabin, more storage place? You can't even put your phone inside the center console and there is no cable channel in the armrest, after 2 months of Android Auto use, my armrest now rattles around.
6. Can we option a factory flexfuel package that includes the sensor and populates the map with a higher power output from the factory?
7. Instead of the Z/28 as a whole other vehicle, could we see a higher output NA engine option for the SS instead, that can be stacked on top of all the other packages?

Last edited by JaxChris; 01-07-2018 at 04:13 AM.
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