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Old 04-21-2015, 08:50 PM   #328
jp23rockstar
 
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If the Gen6 is bare bones for creature comforts, it will be the biggest failure of 2016. The crappiest Kia now sets the bar for what you can expect in a car. Bare bones doesn't cut it anymore.

Also keep in mind for allll these creature comforts, the weight difference between a 1SS and 2SS is only about 40 pounds. Leather and a bunch of wires and controllers don't weigh that much.

You are right on the basics, the more you can produce the lower the piece price. But GM's model is farrrr more complex than that. If your model held true you could just price the Corvette at $25,000 and you would sell a crap load of them and make even MORE money. It doesn't quite work out like that. There is a lot more too it than that.

Yes, by selecting Alpha and likely putting the 2.0T as the base engine now, they will likely hold the base price. But don't confuse that with now adding additional premium materials and still holding price simply because the low volume Camaro also has some of those parts. Just because the ATS and CTS aren't selling, don't lose sight of the fact they were supposed to sell much better. I would expect GM at one point hoped the ATS would far outsell the Camaro.
As a brand Cadillac is lost. The reason why the Camaro and Vette sell is because of the styling and performance. People that buy German and Japanese luxury sedans don't even consider Cadillac. It's ironic because the new Cadillac sedans are lighter and handle better than their counterparts. The Escalade sells well because of the image it projects. Cadillac's sedans styling just isn't doing it, not saying the 3 Series of the worlds light up design department either. From all the accounts I've read the F30 BMW 3 series is a German Camry with rwd. It's nothing special, but I guess now that the young guys are getting older, they need easier car to drive with less "weightness" of steering and more Buick like ride. I always thought BMW stood for the ultimate driving machine. Seems hardly like that right now with how numb their steering is in their cars.
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