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Old 05-28-2018, 08:57 PM   #1129
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Originally Posted by Spartan268 View Post
Oh hush. You're here to stir and you know it. But back on topic. That's a very nice run. I've noticed E85 really does something else to the coyote motors.
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Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1 View Post
Its the single biggest bolt on gain for the SS as well. Around 30 rwhp.
Funny thing is that when the modded 15-17s were running these crazy times they all said that E85 makes a big difference in these cars. But now that the 18 GTs that are running these "impressive" times are all on E85 they wanna downplay it and call it "all motor" and act like E85 isn't that big a deal.
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Originally Posted by Chadicus View Post
My 15 GT had the PP and even with 3.73s it sucked. After mods and tunes FBO it sounded good but still only had about 3000 rpm of useable power. Never again.

Now the 18 runs like the 15 should have. Until it breaks anyway. Still plagued with QC issues. Valvetrain problems both trannies failing, and snapping driveshafts on stock power, hood flutter, we could go on and on. Sorry to the fanboys but I'm not impressed. At all. At the very best the car is wildly inconsistent from car to car.
I'm not impressed in the slightest either. You have to do LTs and GT350 IM on them to get power out of them. I never felt a car that had 3.73s, spun at the slightest throttle input, yet had no actual low end grunt like the 15-17 GTs. I would like to test drive an 18 to see how it compares.

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Originally Posted by FastCarFanBoy View Post
LOL cams? No, that was the 4th gen in the other lane...and who in their right mind would not assume DR's? You can see the Drag Pack 5 seconds into the video. And who claims a FBO car is still stock? stock long block sure.

Technically "all motor" is "all motor".
"All motor" can also be a stroker kit with aggressive cams, torque converter, gears, LTs...heck some of these all motor engines can make more HP that supercharged engines. But hey, it's still "all motor".

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Originally Posted by kttxz06 View Post
Was it? I was starting to think that after I watched the video again. haha.
Coyote engines don't lope like pushrod engines do. Which is why they do that ghost cam bullshit. But you can legit hide a cam in a DOHC engine. I did stage 2 cams in my 03 GT (SOHC) and you could not tell there was a cam in it at all. Buddy of mine did stage 2s in his 4V engine and it was virtually the same. I'm not accusing these guys of hiding cams...yet. But they definitely could. Along with a slew of other mods. I was on a forum and they had a laundry list of all the things you could do to a GT and hide. And unless you knew what you were looking for and had tools you'd never know the car was modded.
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