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Originally Posted by 396ssrat

Wouldn't be the first time in history Camaro had the same power as the Vette.

Perhaps not, but this is different.

Originally Posted by lt4camaro

They were for awhile, 650 hp Z06 and 650 hp ZL1

Except the Z06 isn't the top of the line Corvette so it doesn't matter that the mid-line Corvette shared a figure with a Cadillac and Camaro. Totally different.

Originally Posted by Slickcas

If were talking just cost. The LT5 and LT4 probably have a closer price point than you think. Most of the parts are the same. The LT5 and LT4 use the same high pressure fuel pump and injectors. Same Low side pump.
The LT5 and LT4 use the same cylinder heads.
The LT5 and LT4 use the same pistons but with different rings and same rods I do believe.
The LT5 has an AFM-less valley plate.
The LT5 has different crank
The LT5 has a different camshaft.
The only major difference is the 2650 supercharger And secondary port fuel system with small injectors. Running off the same fuel pump that supplies fuel to the high-pressure pump.

Unlike the LS9 that thing is just holy crap expensive on everything.

So totally up to GM.

Correct, crate engine/long block wise, they costs are probably close enough to be possible. Where it really loses is the issues that only GM and other OEMs would have to deal with. Hood clearance, reliability, suspension etc. The car would get a beefed up drivetrain, which the ZR1 has over the Z06, and this would add weight and likely require retuning of the suspension system. Stronger clutch for manuals, new trans tuning for A10s (Which would be a huge undertaking as it's already SO good). Stronger axles, a different exhaust system for the extra heat and flow the LT5 makes. The front end would have to be redesigned to either make a taller hood (which would make the bad visibility EVEN worse), lower the engine (Which makes a huge drivetrain/suspension problem), and furthermore, they're already at the limit of hood height from what I've heard of passing pedestrian safety laws and all of that BS. So factor in the cost to effectively retro-fit an LT5 to an existing package like the LT4 ZL1 and your cost is going to be massive. The ZL1 is out, it's performing well, it's finished. GM will not tear it apart to start over. Anybody could drop a crate LT5 into a ZL1 and add the extra fuel setup. GM cannot get away with that. The changes that would have to be made would be astronomically expensive for what it is worth to GM. Big picture.

Originally Posted by Squatch

They wont put the LT5 in Camaro, the 6th Gen is already set, and no more changes will occur. The 7th Gen ZL1 I Bet will get somewhere about a 600 HP NA engine with 200 HP electric assist. I would bet money on that.

Definitely won't be a 600 HP NA engine with hybrid power. From the looks of it, TT smaller V8s are the future of GM from all from the patents they're filing as well as some intel I've received. Hybrid power will come, but it won't be to the Camaro first, that's for sure.

Originally Posted by Sig

The problem with the Corvette for me and many of my contemporaries (45 year old GenXer here) is that the Corvette screams baby boomer crisis machine. THe Camaro is so much cooler and actually affordable for younger buyers. Even the ZR1 is a total beast and I could have afforded one, but I just cannot see myself in an old man's wet dream come true. I actually owned 2 Vipers before precisely because they weren't Corvettes. Don;t get me wrong, the Corvette is an insane performance machine but I get more comments and looks from the Camaro, especially from younger folks than my father ever got in his cheesy Corvettes and I ever got in my Vipers. I think the future is LT5 Camaro. I would keep my 18' ZL1 but if an LT5 Camaro comes out, instant trade! But I won't go Corvette. Chevy needs to pay attention to this buyer segment.

That's a very opinionated opinion. I think with the C7 Corvette, the Corvette crowd got much younger. I see lots of 20-somethings driving C7 Corvettes around even if it was a stretch for them to afford it. Maybe it's the area I'm in but I don't think it's "an old man's wet dream" - that would definitely be a C4, C5 or maybe C2 Corvette. A C6 Z06/ZR1 or C7 car is definitely no old mans car.