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Old 03-14-2014, 06:14 PM   #97
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Originally Posted by KMPrenger View Post
You might not be far off, but if GM uses the same length chassis as the ATS, then I feel a bit more optimistic than that. If they use a longer chasis, something between ATS and the CTS (since the Alpha platform is not static in size) then it could weigh more.

The ATS V6 weighs around 3,450 lbs...and I think that includes the goodies like MRC suspension and maybe even better brakes than a V6 Camaro. Now one would think a Camaro based on the same chasis would weigh less, due to things like less sound insulation, and less technology and less high end materials on the inside. So I'm going to say we could still see a V6 Camaro come in at right around 3,400 lbs give or take.

Now, the current V8 Camaro weighs between100 - 150 lbs more than a comparibly equipped V6 Camaro. Thats the engine, brakes, driveline and the whole bit. So apply that to my figure above for a 6th gen V6, and you end up right around 3,550 lbs for a 6th gen Camaro SS. So I think that coming in under 3,600, or maybe right around that mark sounds very attainable to me for the next SS.

Thats a good 250ish lbs lost, and I'm betting puts it right in the same ballpark as the 2015 Mustang GT b/c I doubt it has lost much if any weight.

Lets hope this can happen!
I think you are being too hopeful.

I believe MR is an option and I doubt GM can maintain price with a magnesium cradle. Everyone says "get rid of that Cadillac stuff and you'll save even more weight". Problem is some of that "Cadilac stuff" is premium light weight materials that you can afford at $$34,000 but not at $25,0000.

As usual I hope I'm wrong.

No one is talking about wheels. The largest wheel on the ATS is 18". Larger wheels will add mass and create more load into the body structure requiring more mass.

If we get the Alpha based car everyone wants and there is no 4 cylinder as all the haters are hoping, I think 3500 pounds for a V6 would be a great achievement. A V8 weighs more than a 6, needs a bigger radiator a bigger transmission a stronger driveshaft stronger rear axle.

Also name anything not optional on an ATS that you wouldn't expect on your Camaro. There isn't much these days.
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