[sengli]

Karma, I agree with your statement, that these arent designed all that robust for lifting purposes. Boy the days of shoving a car jack under the vehicle and easily finding some strong areas to lift it by... are gone. I have gone to three different dealerships for service over the years for my camaros. All three had no clue how to properly lift a gen5, or a gen6 car. If not stopped and instructed by me, they would have done damage to the cars without a doubt.