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Originally Posted by 96MrBass
Pretty sure when you started this tread you wanted to start it like this.
( Ha! so it's been a while and still no 10's in a ZL1 like plenty of hellcat's? ) 
You keep referring to being a drag racer shouldn't we be going by consistent/averages 1/4 mile passes?
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I have a Camaro 2SS as well as the Hellcat, so I have no reason not to want to see the ZL1 do well. The Gen5 ZL1 was a joke and I'm hoping Chevy got it right this time.
What I have a HUGE problem with is all the mis-informed, stick their heads in the sand, fanboys out there, and that goes for this forum and others I'm on, but this one is one of the worst. I've heard the Vette forum takes all the cake, but I could care less about a Vette and would never own one so don't care about those folks. I have friends with Vettes and most fit the stereotype perfectly.
There was a ZL1 vs Hellcat thread started back in the winter and all the fanboys on this site were jumping up and down at how the ZL1 was gonna whip the Hellcat. Then the power at 650 was announced and I posted that wasn't gonna be enough. I hadn't even considered torque mgmt at that time, but seems that's going to be the real challenge as well.
Now folks are leaning on the stock tire as an excuse knowing Dodge handicapped the Hellcat with crappy tires that NO ONE that is serious uses.
I wanna see what the ZL1 can do on real tires so all the excuses are taken away and we know what it's capable of. Seeing what it can do on stock tires is fine and good, but that is NOT the benchmark for the car. Stock tires are a compromise between engineers, lawyers, and bean counters when you're talking OEM spec. Dodge engineers flat out said they'd use DRs on the Hellcat hands down, hmmm why didn't it come with them then? Demon has them and you have to sign a 10 page waiver to buy the car LOL.
I'm passionate about cars as well as forum post accuracy so forgive me if I seem a little fired up at times. I've been through a lot of this myself and had to learn. I thought I was gonna magically run 11s in my old Challenger with a built motor and a supercharger on street tires. It was an M6 to boot and people tried to tell me but I didn't believe them because I was uneducated. 6 trips to the track and never getting better than a 12.2 was a real eye opener especially considering the trap speed was over 120. Later I saw the light, swapped tires and ran 10.80s in the end. Yes my driving also improved, but the 60' went from 2.2 to 1.5.