Bought the Sho N Sto but didn't like it. Didnt want holes in the bumper from the stock bracket. So, I did a few measurements and ended up cutting off all the protruding mounting points from the back of the stock mount, drilled a few holes for zip ties, flipped the whole thing upside down (V on bottom), and mounted it down low. Very happy with the low recessed result. I'm too old to be trying outfox LEOs by running no plate in NJ.