[Mustang Fanboy]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

The quarter mile stood out BECAUSE IT IS A $65K+ CAR!! LOL!! I never said it was set up to be a quarter mile terror. But it should at least be somewhere near the cars that cost the same amount. I said it before to someone else, you Mustang guys rag on the Hellcat all the time for not being able to corner...and for it being a straight line car. Despite the fact that it is built with straight line performance in mind. But your GT350R is only good at cornering and therefore deserves the ridicule. At least the Hellcat beats other cars in it's arena. The GT350R lost on the track, lol!! And 12.2s been slow. The 5th Gen ZL1 and GT500 (before 2013) was ridiculed for only being low 12s and that was 5 years ago. You think performance sat still for 5 years? Get a clue.

The Z28 was a $75K car. The GT350 doesn't need to be a 1/4 mile terror. It's not in the same class as the ZL1. Quite honestly, you're one of the few the ridicule the GT350R. Everyone else seems to be able to see the GT350R for what it is...except for you. As for the GT500, it was a tire swap away from being a low 11 second car. Yes, the previous gen GT500 was just as capable in the 1/4 mile as your beloved ZL1. And yet, here we are comparing the naturally aspirated GT350R.

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

If you think 0.39 seconds is close then you are wrong. But keep telling yourself whatever makes you sleep better at night. Why would I try to justify my purchase when I passed up on the GT350 way before the ZL1 even came out? LOL!! From the minute the GT350 hit the streets I thought it was pathetic looking at the times it posted. I have no animosity at all. Hey, it's your money, throw it away if you like. Oh, and I could have bought a GT350R too. That is if I wanted to pay the dealership which I didn't. I have lots of friends who have cars like these. All the ones who bought the GT350 got rid of it for either a Z06 or a ZL1 or a Hellcat. Nobody envies GT350 guys except for GT owners, lol!!

0.39 seconds is close enough to make tire wear a real issue, or an inopportune re-fueling. There is much more to a race the just lap time alone.

As for envy....you must not frequent auto events. I'm sorry to say, but GT350R's still get far more oohs and ahhs than anything GM puts out.

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

In 5 years it won't be worth crap because the SS will be destroying it by then. And sure, you can call the ZL1 an optioned out SS. It comes standard with all the options that are available in the SS and you can option in stuff that the SS doesn't have. Your Shelby is stripped. You gotta option in AC and a radio. They took a GT, added a suspension to it, threw in an expensive overpriced engine with vibrational issues, threw on some super expensive wheels, just for it to get it's ass handed to it by the ZL1. Hey you guys better hope it is worth something in 5 years because otherwise you threw away more money than you know. And that is even if people want it by then. Which is why I doubt Ford will put something better out. Because if they do, then everyone will want the new thing.

The GT350R is only stripped if you order it as such. More are optioned with AC and stereo than without.

As for "you guys", I honestly hope prices drop like a rock so I can pick one up used in a few years. I don't own one...remember.

Ford always puts better out...and it doesn't affect the value of previous generation specialty cars. It could be simply because mustangs have a larger following...and a bigger brand name. It's most definitely partially because of limited supply. You see, when it comes to mustangs....people don't necessarily care about one being the fastest....as the newer versions will undoubtedly be quicker. Go look at used prices for 2012 boss 302's. They are bested around the track by the S550 performance pack, yet still regularly fetch $30k+.

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

I am 40 years old and I will never outgrow the "wanna go fast" kick. I don't wanna be faster than everyone else. But I damn sure don't want a car that costs as much as the Shelby and loses at everything performance-related.

Why does it matter? Apparantly it's not about the driving experience.

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

Spirited driving can still be considered illegal and you can be cited for it. Some municipalities call it "excessive display of horsepower", "wreckless driving", etc. So while it isn't street racing, it is still illegal and you can be pulled over, cited, or worse. Out here in NJ it is mandatory impounding of your vehicle, mandatory arrest, I believe mandatory loss of license, etc if your driving in a "spirited" manner and a cops deems it "racing". So again, don't try to be mister spic and span boy scout. Nobody buys these cars and then decide to not put them to use.

When you see people around you being killed for street racing, you'll notice the difference. Spirited driving can get you a ticket. Street racing get's people killed. A bit of a difference.

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

And I wouldn't be caught dead in a Miata. I know their potential and what they can be made to do. But still, not for me no way no how.

Again, this shows your maturity. There is nothing wrong a Miata...they are fun as hell. There is an entire racing series dedicated to them.

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

I never complained about the markups. Not once. I simply chose not to pay it. And I think it is pretty stupid to pay it. And not that it's any of your business, but I had $10K in money as a down payment, $14K of equity in one car, about $2K in equity in a SUV I got at a crazy good deal a few months ago, and a really high credit score. Trust me when I tell you, I had my pick of the litter. I had my eyes on a brand new Z06 3LZ. And if it wasn't for the fact that it was too darn uncomfortable and the ZL1 was much more practical, I would have had that instead. I am not ever gonna pay fully loaded top model brand new Vette money for a Mustang. Not even close. Oh and BTW, I got my ZL1 financed with that dealership's top tier bank with no money down. If I wanted a GT350R, I would be in one right now. You would be surprised if you knew what I could have bought.

All you have done is bitch and moan about the GT350R having admin. If you could afford to pay admin, you would. You just don't see it. The reason you chose not to pay admin is because you can't afford to. It doesn't make financial sense. Of course, neither does buying a new car, but that's a different discussions altogether.