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Originally Posted by newmoon
You do understand that the GT350R just barely lost to the ZL1 by a tick. So when you refer to the SS 1LE being as fast as the GT350R then what you must really mean to say is why buy the ZL1 when the 1LE is just a tick behind it for 20k less correct?  |
You do understand that 0.39 seconds is a LOT of time on a track right? That is almost 4 tenths. And when pushing both cars to their limits that is a significant difference. Look at it this way, if the ZL1 made that lead in the straights, then that means it kept up with the GT350R in every turn. If it made that time thru the entire track, then it just straight up bested the GT350R the entire time. But whatever makes you feel better...
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Originally Posted by Mustang Fanboy
The Zl 1le is competition for the currently non-existent GT500R. It's only because Ford doesn't currently have a supercharged model that this comparison even exists. Hell, Ford may not ever release a S550 GT500 which means there will never be a direct ZL1 competitor for this generation.
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Yea I have my doubts that we will see a S550 GT500. I don't think Ford can realistically put one out there without really scorning the GT350R owners. If they do then it will be cheaper and will not keep up with the ZL1 which will be bad. If it is more expensive then it will be way above the price point of the ZL1 1LE (like I said before)...so high it will have to be near what GT350R owners paid. At that point if it isn't a "special edition" or limited production then it will not be worth the tag. Either way GT350R owners are gonna get burned. But again, I think Ford realizes this and is not gonna put it out there. I'll have a good laugh either way!!
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Originally Posted by Mustang Fanboy
The 1SS LE never matched the same time. It has already been shown that several seconds can be added (or subtracted) from conditions, why you continue to spout this nonsense is beyond me. Could it match it? Maybe...but you seem to be acting as if these have been tested head to head when they have not.
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If that is soo then who is to say that conditions weren't more favorable on the day the GT350R ran? In which case they would be tied or close to tied yet again. That is where speculation gets you. Because you're trying to assume that the conditions were great when the 1SS 1LE ran and horrible when the Gt350R ran. And even if that was soo, the ZL1 would still be better than all of them. So your argument is mooted, try again.
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Originally Posted by shaffe
I am not sure it will. They are two cars that will have 2 purely different goals. Did 5th Gen Z/28 owners care that the ZL1 cost less, was faster in the 1/4 mile with all the creature comforts? I don't remember many being up in arms, bc the Z/28 was a track focused N/A car. Same logic IMO would apply to the GT350 and rumored GT500.
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That has nothing to do with now. The GT500 will have to be faster than the ZL1 1LE. Which by default will make it faster than the GT350R. The Z28 costed a bit more than the ZL1 in the 5th Gen. But they ran almost identical times in the quarter mile with the Z28 being better on the track. That isn't gonna fly with the GT500. It'll have to be better at both to keep up with the Camaro if that is it's true competitor as you put it. And yes, if you paid $90K for a GT350R just to have the GT500 show up at way less and beat it at everything then that would be a burn.