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kwav8r · 05-25-2017, 01:40 PM

I'll have to admit, this argument is really entertaining. No way this argument will end, at least in my lifetime, it's fun, gives us all something to talk &#$! about.

All three manufacturers approach "Muscle Cars" from different angles, each has their niche and each their diehards. If you're a marketing guy/gal for any of these you have job security. I know because I have actually watched dudes & ladies get in fist fights over who's car/truck is bigger/faster than the other.

The Niches - IMHO.

Dodge/MOPAR - Nothing beats cubes. We go fast in a straight line. Our cars are huge and guzzle gas and we don't give a &*#$. We like wrenching on cars, because that's what you do with a Dodge but, "I'm gonna beat your ass from light to light and grin doing it - Murica!".

Chevy - Still trying to find that elusive sweet spot between, handling, styling, power, reliability, etc. in a car that won't cost you an arm and leg. Sometimes they get it right, other times their muscle cars look like chick rides (no offense to the ladies on here either - there's just no excuse for the 4th Gen) and spend a lot of time broke because of cheap parts to keep costs down. "We're hear to compete between the two and will beat at least one of you, for a little while, at your game"

Ford - Trying hard to be "American Engineered" competition to the Europeans. High rev, flat plane crank, with a loud exhaust (hello Ferrari, etc.). Euro styling compared to Dodge/Chevy. Fancy themselves better than everyone else because "Hey, we're Ford and we can charge more for our #$&* because our crowd will pay for it."

For the record, I'm not throwing shade on anyone. These are just my observations. I've never owned any of the three but driven all of them (I will take home a ZL1 soon though). I did however, grow up in a machine shop and have done my share of head/block/whatever work on all three.

Last comment, all three manufacturers like incremental improvements to keep us coming back for more - it's the game (enjoy it!). The margins are getting a lot thinner though which just makes for better arguments. As for MT, they get PAID to keep the debate alive, they're actors in the muscle car drama show.

05-25-2017, 01:40 PM	#372
kwav8r Flyin NOE Drives: 2018 ZL1 (A10) Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: TX Posts: 949	I'll have to admit, this argument is really entertaining. No way this argument will end, at least in my lifetime, it's fun, gives us all something to talk &#$! about. All three manufacturers approach "Muscle Cars" from different angles, each has their niche and each their diehards. If you're a marketing guy/gal for any of these you have job security. I know because I have actually watched dudes & ladies get in fist fights over who's car/truck is bigger/faster than the other. The Niches - IMHO. Dodge/MOPAR - Nothing beats cubes. We go fast in a straight line. Our cars are huge and guzzle gas and we don't give a &#$. We like wrenching on cars, because that's what you do with a Dodge but, "I'm gonna beat your ass from light to light and grin doing it - Murica!". Chevy - Still trying to find that elusive sweet spot between, handling, styling, power, reliability, etc. in a car that won't cost you an arm and leg. Sometimes they get it right, other times their muscle cars look like chick rides (no offense to the ladies on here either - there's just no excuse for the 4th Gen) and spend a lot of time broke because of cheap parts to keep costs down. "We're hear to compete between the two and will beat at least one of you, for a little while, at your game" Ford - Trying hard to be "American Engineered" competition to the Europeans. High rev, flat plane crank, with a loud exhaust (hello Ferrari, etc.). Euro styling compared to Dodge/Chevy. Fancy themselves better than everyone else because "Hey, we're Ford and we can charge more for our #$& because our crowd will pay for it." For the record, I'm not throwing shade on anyone. These are just my observations. I've never owned any of the three but driven all of them (I will take home a ZL1 soon though). I did however, grow up in a machine shop and have done my share of head/block/whatever work on all three. Last comment, all three manufacturers like incremental improvements to keep us coming back for more - it's the game (enjoy it!). The margins are getting a lot thinner though which just makes for better arguments. As for MT, they get PAID to keep the debate alive, they're actors in the muscle car drama show.