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Originally Posted by LesBaer
You're quoting track times from this site. So yes it is relevant - you brought it up. The driver absolutely plays a role in track times and so does the temperature. The 1LE weighs 300+lbs more than a Z51, which also has better aerodynamics. I just don't believe what you posted is accurate. Now if you showed us Randy from Motortrend doing laps back to back in the cars like in a head to head, that would be another story.
Where are you getting $25k more from? His topic's title says "1LE vs. USED 2016 Z51". If you're going to start talking about "value", you can't ignore depreciation in your comparison. Everyone can do whatever they want, but a brand new Camaro 1LE is probably going to lose close to $10k (give or take) of it's value in Year 1 of depreciation alone. A 1 year old Z51, if he can score a good price on a good car (maybe CPO), that's $ he's never going to lose when the time comes to sell. For comparable cars - even if I'm off by $1k in my estimate - that's not chump change. Assuming it's a good car, going used over new is always the better value if the $ is right. I haven't looked up the value of used Z51's lately but I'd bet they're close now, which is why he titled the comparison to a used Z51. Saying the 1LE is the clear performance value winner only makes sense comparing new to new.
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No, you are missing the point. Its not relevant. Obviously it would be relevant if we were trying to determine the absolute winner down to any degree of accuracy. But my point is that the fact that the times that are available are that close gives the edge to the 1LE in my opinion. Because if you can even prove they are close with such a disparity in cost, I feel its pretty evident which is a better value. And you say that the cost is only relevant comparing new to new but that is also not true, because you have to factor in when you buy used you are losing value in the warranty, and I dont claim to be a car price depreciation expert but I would guess that a 2016 z51 with <15k miles on it hasnt gone through its entire major depreciation hit before it start to devalue more linearly. (i could be wrong about that)
Edit: Warranty is kind of a big deal for a performance machine you intend to push hard just saying