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Originally Posted by JaxChris
BCM programming shouldn't be an issue. Now, if there is a different part number from '16 to '17 on the SS, then the '16s would possibly be SOL.
As for wiring, most of the harnesses just are modular for every vehicle using the Alpha platform -- Camaro included.
My biggest concern is software on the HMI. The '16 & '17 MY's have a different HMI unit with more RAM and the image from those HMI's are likely not compatible with the '16 MY. I believe most of the control modules in Alpha can be set to VIN learning mode using a GM MDI2.
Ofer said he was working on getting the PDR parts and putting together a kit/service to add it to the '16 & '17 SS owners. If he is able to get PDR on the '16 HMI (or perform a HMI swap into '16 MY's) then PTM can be done as well.
To those wondering why look at the cost of adding these parts... well GM canned 3rd shift LGRAP, cut total production output by 50% after winter freeze and is not setting a dealer commitment for ZL1. That means inventory will never be on the lot and discounts will never be available. With so many SS owners that got 15-25% off their car, if it only takes 5k to add PTM/eLSD/PDR and another 7k for LT4 or 10k for even bigger power, that puts the SS owners at equal or better abilities and only being into their car for about 45-50k -- not 70k.
We won't get to enjoy the A10 transmission, but for 20k less I can deal with that.
If GM didn't have developmental delays associated with the A10 that pushed back its' launch for the ZL1 and the ordering banks had officially opened before people started getting 2016 closeout deals, then maybe more people would've waited for the ZL1. If you already bought the SS, jumped to the ZL1 within 2 years is a total waste of capital and negative equity will increase your total ZL1 investment to 80k.
Sorry, I got carried away in the post.
tl;dr = '16 SS discount ruled, add lots of stuff, not spend an extra 20k on top of all that for ZL1, unless you really want that A10 tranny (which I do, but not for another 20k)
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I don't see how you don't think the BCM isn't an issue, it "IS" the only and most major issue of the whole upgrade. You can get all of the hard parts and install them, though it may not be cost effective you can do it.
You wont get around programming the BCM via the dealer / GM, that part wont happen at all in regards to a true OEM offering. You cant just take a BCM from a Camaro that has eLSD and put it into a car that doesn't and it will work, doesn't work like that. The BCM is VIN tied to the vehicle it comes from, in order for it to work the VIN has to match that vehicle.
The dealer can only program the BCM calibration for your VIN into the BCM, that happens when the log into the GM Global system and contact the mothership. Even if you try to provide a VIN from a Camaro that has eLSD it wont work as it will fail the VIN check.
The only option would be if Chris White has broke the code for the Camaro ZL1/1LE BCM and can do a segment swap into your BCM. He will have to have your BCM to do this. He knows his stuff and can work wonders on GM BCM mods.
The only downside if you ever go to the dealership for any warranty work and there is an update for your VIN/BCM, that update will erase the modified BCM calibration that Chris puts in your BCM. Then you will have to ship him your BCM again for him to re-flash it. You cant even have a second BCM waiting either since they have to be programmed on the vehicle for them to work, you cant really "hot swap" the BCM.
GM is getting smart, they are taking out every loop hole they can in regards to mods. Litigation has shown that ever years down the road the manufactures can be held liable for changes made to a vehicle, so now those manufactures are doing what they can to prevent those unauthorized mods.
Heck, last year the domestic manufactures were trying to get it passed where it was a federal offense to tamper with any of the computer systems on the vehicles with aftermarket programming, in essence they were trying to maintain control over the ECM/TCM/BCM permanently because of down the road repercussions.