My BMW R1200ST is lighter, faster, WAAAAAY better in the curves (you know those places like the Dragon where all traffic backs up for the Hardley-Ableson riders to duck walk through the hairpins), carries as much if not more stuff, and is just as comfortable as anything from Milwaukee. Harley makes a good motorcycle for what they are used for, but don't act like they are the only choice. There are far better alternatives in just about every segment. If you want "the look", then that's fine, go for it! Harley sells a "lifestyle" to 95% of it's customers, and it's making them millions. I have a long standing hatred of Harley that is personal (ex-father in law worked at the York plant - many, many horror stories), but for what they do, make a lot of noise and clog up roads, they excel.