[LesBaer]

Originally Posted by Speedy1975

You make some excellent points. Axles were the one of the first things we upgraded in the Challenger as they have about a 100% failure rate at the drag strip, maybe the Camaro ones are stronger or the lighter weight helps. Drive shaft was next as we'd twist those up and take out the rear diff with it lots of times.

I've heard some sound bites and the LTs do sound nice. Just seems like a lot to spend for 20rwhp. We get about the same gain on the Challenger so I never fooled with them. The fact you can't really see them added to that decision for me as well. Does the Camaro still pass emissions with LTs? The Challenger can sometimes pose issues there as well if you don't have a good tuner that knows what sensors to manipulate and how.

Good to know on the codes. New cars are nice but can be a pita to modify.

Oh I hear you, they're not cheap but you're limited without them. I've heard of people blowing engines because of the stock cats in a car that they tuned up the boost on. Actually ran into a guy this week with CTSV that it happened to after 30k miles.

You won't pass emissions if you just roll in there, but it's easy to get by with a tune change. Not triggering the codes is what you need to watch out for. That's why they last for so many drive cycles so people can't easily fake emissions. I've also never heard of anyone failing inspections because someone visually saw headers. However, at least in my state, with a new car I don't have to go to emissions for something like 7 years LOL! I still haven't had to get my emissions checked on my 2012 Charger.

The axles aren't great in the Camaros though. I'm definitely not saying they're good, but for someone who just drives fast on the highway they're fine. I just don't drag race or go bananas doing donuts. It's something I'd personally do after the fuel system upgrades...round 2 stuff if I add more boost. If you get any wheel hop with the stock axles, they're toast.