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Originally Posted by Number 3

Have to weigh in on this as most will automatically know that I have been the biggest complainer about the visibility on this car. It was bad on the Gen5 and except for over the hood, it got worse on the Gen6. That my good Camaro friends is fact not opinion and it's why it's mentioned in almost every review of the car.

That being said, there is NOTHING wrong with it not bothering you. If you expected the visibility the car delivers and you are satisfied that's AWESOME. If you are so in love with the performance of the car that you are willing to give up on visibility that too is absolutely GREAT.

But regardless of what your opinion is, the slammed roof, high belt, high decklid does not provide anything close to good visibility. The quarter window is a complete joke. It may be good enough for you, but please do not fall into the internet trap of "it's awesome for me so how on earth could anyone complain about it". It's a syndrome that exists on every car forum. Just because it's ok for you, and even ok for others (as pointed out by this contentious topic and it's passionate responses) doesn't mean it wasn't a trade off intentionally made by GM.

GM could have made a truly outstanding coupe and actually improved the visibility over the Gen5. That was my fervent hope. Why? Because I worked there, I know the people that work there, I know what those people are capable of doing and they could have done it.

But please stop saying it isn't a problem just because it isn't for you.

Please stop trying to say the countless magazines don't know what they are talking about either unless you are willing to discount that each one of those magazines has pretty much also picked the Camaro as the better performance car. You can't pick and choose your win here. Either they are right and it's a great car (which it is) with poor visibility or you can discount all the wins too because some of that was based on subjective evaluations as well.

And btw, my undergraduate thesis was on occupant packaging so I know of what I speak.

Again, I am so good with that fact that people don't care about it, or over look it or don't find it to be a problem. Great for you. But it is a real issue and if you took the industry standard tools for measuring these things it would be pretty obvious. Me, I just know what those tools are and how to use them.

The problem is some people may read the reviews and think the visibility is so bad that it's unsafe to drive, which is not true. I understand that some may not like the feeling of driving a car with smaller windows/a higher beltline, etc. but that's mainly a personal preference, not a safety issue - you can still see everything you need to see to drive the car safely.