[oldman]

Originally Posted by Number 3

Careful with that statistic as well. It goes both ways.

One it says you a great conquest rate. But with low sales the flip side says you haven't made a car that Camaro owners are running out to trade in as well.

I've seen both sides of those numbers.

But to say broad appeal you need to see what the 61% are actually trading in. Broad appeal means you are getting Civic Coupes, Accord Coupes, Altima Coupes, Lexus, BMW, MB.

Not arguing, it's a decent number on the surface. But the data behind that number is where the story is.

Also need that sales number broken down to age and sex.

I sold my Civic SI, and I got off the fence waiting for the Type R.

The I4 convertible is going to move a lot of kids like mine to it, they want manual, they want cheaper, they understand there are huge downsides in a Miata, 18 wheels being one of them. I'm seriously thinking of a new Miata to replace my Challenger as I don't have a autoX, the Type R is move of a rice killer in drag... too much HP and too little tire. I'll wait but I would be interested in either the 1le V6 or the convertible I4 depending on the whims of the next few months. Right now if I was going to pull the trigger, I'd probably roll the Miata.