[oldman]

Originally Posted by Camaroboy14

Hi guys I'm new to the forum, and I'm looking at buying a car, I had a 2002 camaro ss with some mods and sold it.. I'm currently driving a 09 mini cooper :/ now I'm stuck between the 6th gen ss and a 16 dodge charger scat pack. .. the charger is appealing to me because the room and the power it has, plus semi loaded comes out to 43k msrp... now what's you opinion on the 2 cars? I'm looking for 1/4 mile times for the charger scat pack and can't find much.. any help would be awesome !!!

Since you are in a Cooper, you are asking the wrong question, both cars are fast, the Camaro is faster and easier to actually drive fast. I assume an A8 and re are talking acceleration.

I also owned a LS1 1998 and that car was like 3500 lbs so I have some experience with how that behaves too. From stock to full boltons and ins, ILE to Hal ajustables, LS1 to LS6 stuff.

The Charger is 4500 lbs and the Camaro is 3750 lbs, that weight is telling in all instances. Where you feel confident with a Cooper in a turn or down a back road, you will feel the complete ungainly weight of the Charger, it is ponderous and tends to plow, it is unresponsive to minor inputs or corrections to the wheel.

I have a built Type R as well as a supercharged 2015 Civic SI, as well as a supercharged Challenger. The Camaro is many ways more like the Type R, very small (compared to Charger), very rigid. You don't feel the subframe and suspension protesting. The power application does not upset the body.

Read any road review and they will all talk about how ungainly the Challenger / Charger are. I think the last Scat Pack had a .87 g cornering, this is Prius territory.

I'll give the Charger a comffey ride, but from a Cooper... um you are literally looking at TWICE the car. What you consider normal in a Cooper will lead to a tree in the Charger. Yes it has power and room but it has NO as in ZERO tossability. It will be come a complete unforgiven whale when pushed. So corners need to be taken with caution not with thrill and anticipation. I've driven a Type R for almost 20 years I know what Cooper drivers are for. Bare acceleration the Camaro and Charger SP are close, for agility they are LIGHT years apart. Not even in the same world.