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Old 02-02-2016, 08:24 PM   #454
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Originally Posted by Mr. Wyndham View Post
1) Of course Ford will tout it. It's good! Chevy did the same thing with the ZL1. And they also put MRC in the Z06...But it is possible that they were unwilling to go so far as to sacrifice a degree of ride quality in the pursuit of track performance...The DSSV decision was part experimental, and part using the best track damper on the market...But at no point were they truly worried about the car's ride comfort on the street...because the car had one purpose...and they dedicated themselves to that purpose.

If they really went all out for track performance...truly: no compromises - I don't think they'd be using MRC.

2) They have offered the performance parts off of their variants in the past - I think they will, again.
1) I agree... a truly track-only setup doesn't need MRC. But I still think there's a way of getting it working perfectly with MRC... unless there's a serious limitation on how long it can hold the setup in full stiffness mode.

2) Cool stuff, I'd cherry pick what I like for my SS.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Wyndham View Post
MRC is a closed system utilizing preset and professionally-developed calibration maps. You cannot (and should not be able to) individually control the damper settings. MRC is great at everything - but it is not perfection if a person is attempting to go for ultimate track performance. It's not accurate enough in the mechanical fashion that it allows (or doesn't allow) fluid to flow. Has nothing to do with the accuracy of the software.
I get that. I wouldn't want to mess with the dynamic maps, nor should anyone without all the equipment and understanding of professional chassis engineers. What I might have failed to describe, or maybe MRC is actually not capable of this (I think it is), is a separate mode that holds fixed stiffness that a user can control. MRC works by putting a current through the shock fluid - no current = soft while all the current (whatever that may be) = stiff. Give users a "Track+" mode that allows fixed settings for low/high speed compression/rebound at each corner... going from full soft to the maximum stiffness that particular setup can achieve. Any reason I'm not aware of that may prohibit MRC from holding those settings?


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Originally Posted by Mr. Wyndham View Post
The 1LE will not replace the Z/28. Not capable...too expensive.

Funny you brought that up, though..."proper"...I wonder how folks reacted when they put the LT4 into the new Z06...I really don't follow Corvette forums, so I'd be interested to know if the purists were disgusted, or welcoming. Chevy will probably not produce a N/A engine like the LS7, again.....
I know the Z/28 was much more hardcore and expensive. But it seems the 1LE is a possible only serious track offering - since there isn't a higher output N/A LT engine out there at the moment.

I don't have an issue with the current Z06... I just think it should have been called the ZR1. It seems like a direct replacement for that car - extremely high output S/C engine, lots of creature comforts, and a bit heavier than the standard Vette. The Z06 is supposed to be lighter, noisier and much more track focused.

Also, the best handling Z06s (with the best lap times) from the previous generation were on MRC shocks!
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