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Originally Posted by SuperSound
But none of those are needed to best the performance of a base GT350. So really you are adding more to 1SS because you want it. No one has reviewed the 6 pots on a 1SS, so really we don't know how much a difference it makes. But with only 2 feet being the difference between the 1SS without 6 pots and the GT350TP, it should be a noticeable jump. Their ability to last longer on the track could be the biggest benefit. Same thing for MRC, which also hasn't been confirmed to make a measurable difference at the track.
As far as it being worth the cost of the engine, that's not a logical argument...it's an emotional one and you can't put prices on that. My emotions tell me I want both, my budget and wife say otherwise lol.
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Originally Posted by toehead93
The GT350 engine is unique and cool with 526hp but at the end of the day lacks in torque with 429, the LT1 is 455/455. It revs high because it has too, some people think any engine with high rpms is better which would be true if made power down low too but it doesn't. It just makes power up high so at the end of the day it doesn't outperform the LT1 by much if any. I'm looking for an overlay comparing both which I thought I've seen posted somewhere so we can see how much usable power is under the curve of both engines.
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Originally Posted by KMPrenger
My opinion, as I've stated over and over, is that aside from the obvious advantage in peak HP, I believe a M6 1SS, with Mag ride and upgraded brakes is a very viable base GT350 competitor for less money. They aren't (yet) offered by the factory, but better rubber on the SS would help that much more and maybe even best the GT350 on tighter tracks.
A 1SS 1LE will probably be available for 41 - 42K, and I think it will certainly outclass a base Gt350 in almost every performance metric...again except for the top end and I think will approach GT350TP territory for a hell of a lot less $$$.
I know it won't happen, but if the 1LE came with a 500+ HP version of the LT1...even if that added another couple grand to the price on top of what we already expected a 1LE package to cost, it would be a game changer, matching or beating the GT350TP for 10 grand less.
I do think that they might including the option GM intake/tune which could add another 10 or 15 ponies to the top end.
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I agree with you guys that the 1SS comes very close to some performance #s of the GT350. However, based on the hardware of both cars the GT350 will be a much more enjoyable track car - which is also woth $ to many people.
The flat-plane crank engine is only more powerful in the upper rev range, with acceleration tests confirming that power under curve is very similar to the LT1. That's all good, but I'm sure the person in the GT350 will have more fun revving it out.
The brake upgrade is mostly useless below 40 mph in terms of stopping power, feel is a different story however. Above 60mph and for repeated stops, those big brakes will make a bigger difference though.
I bought the Camaro because overall it was a better fit for how I'm going to use the car... and there wasn't a crazy dealer markup. Definitely not because the car matched a higher priced Mustang in 0-60 and 60-0 performance metrics. I wouldn't have bought the last gen 1LE over the GT350... even if it outperformed the Mustang.
The standard GT Mustang (track pack or no) is completely outclassed by the SS though... there's definitely no denying that.