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Originally Posted by Number 3
2 points.
First, I fully agree with 90503. Drive the car and you may not care one bit about the visibility. I drove one and found it horrid. I found it a likely reason to not buy the car. But not being able to get 2 sets of golf clubs in the trunk is probably the only reason I don't have one now. Yes, it's that big a deal for me.
Of course trying to get anyone on here to actually admit that the visibility is poor seems impossible. It's a trade off that many folks are more than willing to make to get this really outstanding car. My only point has been that GM held on to "what worked" and made little effort to go for greatness, which they could have done.
As for my Friend, Mr. Wyndham, well the other point I am hoping people will understand is those passionate enough to come to a website and discuss Camaros everyday ARE NOT the general car buying public. What people on this site are expected to do is crave performance and bada$$ery in their Camaro. I would expect nothing less. What I hope beyond hope is that people realize that GM still has an uphill battle with brand image. And getting people to buy in larger numbers will not happen with an even more focused car where styling trumps function in key areas many people use to compare cars. Not everyone in that GP is willing to make the trade offs for visibility, trunk space and rear seat accommodations. There are people that want a sporty coupe and that is it. The iconic styling and bada$$ery mean nothing. They want a sharp car that is fun to drive and works for them without having too many compromises (all cars have them, I understand that......except Hondas......they generally don't).
So my only point at all is that the Gen4 died not because the V8 didn't work well or that it couldn't beat the Mustang.........it died because the base coupe sales went in the toilet.
I was hoping GM would take a swing at something new with this car. Instead they played it way too safe IMO. Sure it's a wonderful car and almost everyone here loves it.
But remember this. When I started working at GM, they were over 40% market share by quite a bit. Just prior to that, there was Norwood Ohio (now a shopping mall) and Van Nuys California (now building Teslas I belive) building nothing but Camaros and Firebirds. Today, GM has 16% market share, less than 10% share on either Coast for passenger cars and a part of one plant building Camaros. I wanted GM to make a huge statement with this car.
I just wanted more. So I apologize for that.
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You need to apologize for nothing. The timing for these features you desire, though, seems to be something that makes the points you raise seem moot.
The die is cast for several years in the future. The cars will not be re-called for major re-work and re-design as if some massive mistake has occurred.
As much as you want this car to be successful, your arguments at the initial release of the car, seem like sour grapes and an argument that should have been made and incorporated several years ago. I don't think a crusade to establish this 6thGen right now as a flawed, unsellable, bad design serves any positive purpose. You want sales to succeed, don't try and negatively impact them at this point no matter how passionately you believe in your issues.
If you believe the car should have been made differently, fine...but give this one a chance for a while.