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Old 10-24-2015, 11:44 AM   #21
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Then you are missing the points I've been making for the past 2 years.

GM didn't get weight out of the Camaro. They just made the Camaro smaller in many areas including fuel capacity. No one seems to be recognizing that. They just are happy for the number.

Smaller rear seat

Smaller trunk

Smaller fuel tank

All "trade offs" made to have a smaller car that, ta dahhhhh, weighs less.

But be verrrry clear. I'm not anti-GM and never have been. But I do have very high bar for their products.

Here is why......

Their f&%cking market share continues to drop. It has only gone up once in the last 10 years and that was when Japan had a reactor melt down that shut down a huge chunk of their automobile production.

GM needs GREAT cars that challenge the entire market, not just really good cars that are simply loved by the people that have always bought them.

GM is making huge amounts of money right now. But fewer and fewer people are buying their cars. Trucks continue to save the day. I worked there for 26 years and market share went up 3 times. I still have my pin with "29" on it. That was the line in the sand GM claimed they would not fall below. Today they are just a bit more than half that.

I want them to succeed. I have a pension that depends on it!!!!!! And that doesn't happen with cars that aren't great. Too many awesome competitors out there now.
Well said, but Number3, we are talking about one car in their lineup - a car that is not meant to compete with the cars that do have a 20 gallon tank, a large back seat and great visibility. Don't they have other cars that do that?

Sure the Challenger has a bigger back seat, but it also weighs 600 lbs more.

shoot, you have one of them...the SS

BTW, in 2 or three years if the sales numbers are good for the Camaro vs. Mustang vs Challenger - will that relieve your anxiety?
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