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Old 08-21-2015, 11:29 AM   #120
shaffe


 
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Originally Posted by Mr. Wyndham View Post
Many of these same points came up in conversation 6 years ago when GM released an "outrageously more expensive" Camaro than the Mustang...

one word, folks: Appeal.

Camaro outsold the Mustang for years despite not having a "competitive price" or stupid-high rebates like the Ford did. The bottom line is, the Camaro is a better car. People will pay for that. They did...they are...and I think they will continue to do so.

In case it hasn't yet been said....

The new 1SS starts are $37295. It comes with standard RS package features, and is faster than the outgoing 1LE.

A 2015 1SS starts at $34500...add $1350 for the included RS stuff...and for kicks, consider than the 1LE package was $3500.

A faster, better equipped 2016 1SS @ $37295.00.....vs.....2015 1SS/RS + 1LE @ 39350.00.


IMO, that's not a bad deal at all. But I think we need to square with a new reality here...the days of getting four wheels and a V8 are dead. CAFE standards don't allow for manufacturer's to sell V8s willy nilly...so if you want one, you have to pay. I don't like it, but given the circumstances, I'm glad Chevy's at least giving us something for the money.

Sign me up for a 2SS with dual mode exhaust and mag ride!!

Allow me to play devils advocate. Camaro also had a pent up fan base for the car for not existing since 02. Camaro also had a constant blitzkrieg from the media with Transformers, and the mustang didnt have any huge changes since 05 until the Coyote came out in 11. Camaro better have outsold it.

Days of getting a V-8 cheap are going by the way side, but if I just wanted a V-8 coupe, Ford offers it for 32K MSRP if I want to look at chevy now im looking at 37K. That IMO is a huge difference

Yes the Camaro will outperform it, and yes the 1SS to base GT the 1SS is better equipped, so it should be higher priced, but IMO not that much higher. The Camaro is one hell of a nicely equipped car at the 1SS level-I just think they may have put to much standard stuff on it that drove the price up is all.

Say the average joe who has no allegiance to either brand budgets himself 40K for a new sporty car. That person can get into a GT premium that is better equipped (tech/interior features wise) than a 1SS for less money. That IMO could be a problem for GM
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