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Originally Posted by 2013 ZL1 #7860
If you are legally carrying concealed and it "invites confrontation" then you are doing it wrong. Either you are not actually concealing it which makes it visible to others thus inviting unwanted attention or it has a negative/aggressive physiological effect on you and probably shouldn't be carrying at all. You can't start the argument/confrontation and end it with a gun.
I agree except that "the gun you always have with you is better than the BIG gun kept in your safe". I have numerous calibers, but I prefer to carry a 16oz 9mm (7 round) with 124gr HST +P and 1 reload. This gun is so small/thin it can be carried in any clothing type or weather. 9mm with modern ammo is an excellent defensive round that gives 80-90% of the ballistics of older .357 magnums but with more capacity and a smaller (narrower) package. I would love to have my .45 acp on me but the reality is that thing is heavy and hard to conceal everyday.
.380 is better than no gun at all but I would trust a .380 for self defense only when the size of the gun needs to be as small as possible. I would never trust a frangible .380 round (or any other pistol caliber) to defend myself. That will penetrate 2-3 inches at best and will require more rounds to knock the attacker down than the .380 magazine likely holds. In .380 you want the bullet to penetrate as deep as possible and stay in one piece. If shot placement and over penetration are a concern than maybe the shot is not worth taking? (IMO .380 will rarely, if ever, over penetrate to cause concern)
I am not sure why someone would recommend a .357 sig unless they are required to carry it by a PD. That round has been way over thought to the point of having drawbacks from both the 9mm and the .40 s&w but very few advantages over either of them. IMO (more difficulty reloading and harder to find in stock comes to mind)
There is no magic bullet or caliber. Carry what you can shoot accurately and controlled and carry with a defensive mindset.
Exactly what I thought!
I agree on trigger control and accuracy but you are completely missing the point. Lets say you were in a situation and had to use your conceal carry to defend yourself or others. The attacker is injured and/or dies. It is very likely in today's anti-gun environment (even though you maybe 100% justified) that a Prosecutor will be overly aggressive and try to hang you out to dry. I could easily imagine them bringing up the fact that you had a "non-oem trigger" in your gun that makes the gun "shoot with much less effort" and that this shows some form of prior intention. Now imagine the shot you took is not so easily proven to be justified (think Trevon Martin or Michael Brown) and this simple fact maybe the final nail in your coffin. Using the weapon is the very last resort including fleeing the attack and I sure as hell am not going to give the attacker any legal advantage over me (even if it is complete BS as far guns are concerned). This line of thought also includes the new "fad" ammo like zombie max and others. Even though it is the exact same round as the critical defense and cheaper, the legal risk of being "loaded for zombies" is huge! And I would never carry a hand loaded round for self defense for the same reasons. Carry a quality gun in a quality caliber with quality ammo and keep it factory for legal reasons. Have fun shooting or competing with whatever custom combination you like.
I love my .45's but sometimes they are too big to carry everyday.
I think you need to do some more reading, that sure is not the case here in Colorado.
Just because you "work for the government" doesn't mean you know what you are talking about.
(In my experience it usually means the opposite, just sayin...)
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I work for the government too and i carry hot. if i got pulled over would state i have a loaded gun and wait for instruction after i provide my license registration and permit. 9/10 the officer will say thanks for the warning and keep my hands in plain view. only once was i told to get out of the car, and i sat in the cruiser until i got my ticket and he told me sorry for the inconvenience but was concerned for his safety.