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Old 01-16-2015, 03:42 PM   #2814
BeltFed
 
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Originally Posted by MEDISIN View Post
Perplexing indeed. Given the ideal conditions and track prep, why not make a pass or three on 93 before dumping in the race fuel?



So someone talks directly with the source and confirms that both cars were running 109. Now, a week later, the track manager says it was 93? This story get's more capricious by the minute.



Indeed. But when Dodge does it they deserve "special attention".



Get your facts straight. The Hellcat has been tested and reviewed since July. Deliveries started late October/early November. Cars.com had one at the dragstrip in August and ran 11.4.



I didn't realize Dodge delivered Hellcats with 109 octane. My mistake.



Any number of cars are this fast for far less. What you're trying to ask is "what other $60k cars come from the factory with a full warranty and run 11's stock"? The C7 comes to mind. But, but, but I have to accommodate three midgets in the backseat they will say. Not to mention, Ford already built, sold and discontinued a car that did this. Nice of Dodge to mimic.



Nope. I'm not "hug" up on anything. I fully expect some Hellcats somewhere will match and exceed Dodge's 11.2 claim on street tires. Look at stock ZL1 times - far faster than what Chevy marketing announced.



Those journalists, flawed as they are, also tested the GT500 and ZL1 in the same manner. Relative to each other those results are very consistent with actual owner times as I have shown time and again in this thread. Sure some will run slightly faster...but many will run considerably slower too.



Nowhere did I say or imply that stock times should be discredited. I think all times should be considered when evaluating the performance of a car. How can you recognize the 11.4 cars.com ran but not accept the 12.11 this guy ran?
http://nineballgarage.com/2015/01/dr...ellcat-vs-zr1/



Funny how Mopar fans flock to this forum to post a postive magazine time/review but when I post them, they're no longer meaningful? You have a better way of providing head-to-head performance metrics and driving characteristics than from people who do this for a living? No, MotorTrend, Car&Driver, Road&Track aren't perfect, but their testing methodologies are consistent. All cars will post faster acceleration times than magazines report, not just Dodge.



Really? I've owned two Chevy's in my entire life and one Cadillac. I've owned far more Chrysler products than GM. Nice try though.

I just joined in on this party. And OMG, ^^^^ this guy is butthurt butthurt butthurt...

Yikes!
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