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Originally Posted by RobC
You're wrong. It's 2015, not 1965.
The pony car is dead. Camaros now weight 4,000 lbs.
Not to mention, the competition offers both DCT and AWD for the same price as a Camaro.
The next Camaro will make 460hp and be traction limited. 4 season conditions will make traction ever worse.
The additional 130lbs +/- that AWD adds is more than worth it, especially on the street.
The cost argument is laughable considering the other cars that are offering AWD at this price point.
Case in point: My G37x SEDAN runs mid 13's in the 1/4, weighs 3,800lbs, and I only paid $32k for it brand new.
For the money, I think the G37x is the ultimate daily driver for all season driving.
If GM offered a Camaro SS with PERFORMANCE AWD, I think it would replace my G37x for the ultimate daily driver for the money.
Tough talk from behind the protection of your computer screen.
Please run your mouth like that to someone's face in the real world and post the pictures of your face afterwards so we can all laugh at you.
So, after reading your drivel, it's clear to me and everyone else you've never owned a 600+++ rwhp car and you don't have to deal with cold and wet roads. Your IQ is also painfully clear. Now, let's see if you can answer a few simple questions.
#1. What do you OWN that's better performing or more balanced than a 911 Turbo, Gallardo, or GTR ?
#2. What do you OWN that can run with my supercharged C6?
#3. What part of the country do you live in ?
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In what fantasy world does AWD add 130lbs?
Lol.
Everything you've said so far completely falls apart. You know nothing about cars. That is clear.
And no. Performance cars do not necessarily weigh +4000lbs. The structural integrity added plus the weight of the awd definitely would put the camaro at 4200lbs but would hurt performance in every concieveable way except MAYBE 0-60mph(which is a useless measure these days unless you only drag race)
Im born an raised at an autoshop. Literally. Until i started working with medicine recently i had my own autoshop as well. I still do. Im just not dependent of the income so i only service my own, friends and familys cars. Your pissing contest is foolish.
1: i do not own anything thats is better in your opinion to a GTR.. I care not to. I restore old and classic chevy's instead.
2: nothing. I was nearly killed in my stripped out souped up corvette. It's a miracle nothing serious happened to me. Ever since that i've been building more conservatively.
3: I live in the cold north. We have real winters here. Thats why i think it is stupid to use that as an argument. Even the people that can afford RS4's and 6'es take their 4x4 suv or truck as they dont want the weather to ruin their cars, or get stuck in a snowpile. Awd wont do you any good if your wheels dont have any contact!
Seriously, you're delusional. I understand people, you including, directly or indirectly, say i have an attitude. But i just cant deal with people like you. Know it all people that know nothing about cars yet blatantly tells people they are retarded for buying solid rear axle equipped vehicles. That their cars are inferior due to no dct transmission, irs or awd. Educate yourself.