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Old 10-27-2014, 12:37 AM   #70
benanderson89
 
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Originally Posted by KMPrenger View Post
I think in this car the 4 cylinder will be the base engine, while the V6 will be the optional engine. Either that, or they will be so similarly priced (or priced the same) that it really won't be an option, but instead, just a preference.
Lets also not forget fuel economy. Although that wont be much of an issue in the USA with Gas prices only just now creeping up to around $4 a gallon, in the EU where prices are a minimum of $7.90 and can go as high as $10 a gallon, the fuel sipping capabilities of having two fewer cylinders would be the deal breaker.


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Originally Posted by KMPrenger View Post
The turbo 4 is a good engine though, and can easily make around 300HP and 320 to 330 TQ without much of a sweat. If they price the turbo 4 and the V6 pretty much the same, as I mentioned at the beginning, then I'd expect a slight power bump to the turbo 4 to close the HP gap a bit.
Ford's EcoBoost and the base V6 are not that different in price, too. The HP differences are quite minimal to boot. 296hp for the 6 and 305hp for the 4. But as stated, the 6 gains the advantage by having power high in the rev range, where the 4 is more low/mid surge.

Though, from every review I've read of the Turbo 4 Mustang, both from the USA and the UK, the Turbo 4 is by far the better corner muncher. All the low down torque is better for exiting a corner, and the feather weight engine in comparison with the 6 and 8 make it a better balanced car, too.

Maybe being less nose heavy will be a selling for a 4-Pot Camaro, too. If you're not into drag racing the 4 would make an alarmingly good case for itself.

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Originally Posted by doc7000 View Post
When the 6th generation Camaro comes out it is rumored that the Cadillac ATS (and CTS) will get new engines which will likely also be used by the Camaro. Though part of this is to have more refined engines for Cadillac (with these engines likely filtering down to other models).
I wouldn't be surprised, TBH, if GM bore out the cylinders a fraction on the 2.0L unit to make it a 2.1 or 2.2L block instead. That little extra displacement could give it the power boost it needs.

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Originally Posted by doc7000 View Post
From the early reviews while I like the new Mustang I feel that they set their sites too low and could have done something really amazing. I think that the big difference with the 6th generation Camaro is that every engine model will be considered a performance vehicle. I still feel that with the 2015 Mustang that the 3.7L and 2.3T engine cars aren'y really performance cars more of a option against something like a Honda Accord coupe.
For the weight of the Mustang (1.7t?), 296 and 305hp do seem a little on the low side. But the EcoBoost can apparently do the 60mph sprint in 5.2s - its not BMW M3 bothering territory, but I'd say its a bit more than a humble Honda Accord
It still screaming fast by any metric and you could easily loose your license in a heartbeat.

Since the ATS weighs in at around 1.5t, I'd expect the Gen6 to weigh about the same if not less. The 300hp Turbo 4 + well chosen gear ratios and I think 5s dead or possibly lower could be achieved. In fact I'll be disappointed if it doesn't match the EcoBoost mustang at the very least.
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