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Originally Posted by Number 3
You do know that on the internets that, "a lot of guys are saying" translates to "my opinion is" 
As I've said, GM's hurdle here isn't the small Japanese competitors, it's the full size segment.
The previous truck was not a champ by any means. I remember a meeting when we were told the greatest thing about the Colorado/Canyon was were going to lose a whole lot less money on them. But the engineering was supposed to be done by Isuzu as I recall and GM pulled the US version back and delayed the program for a year to make the truck better than the global version.
You have to remember Toyota has a crappy version of the Tacoma sold elsewhere in the world. It's the Hi Lux I believe.
The issue always was for a few thousand more you get a full size that had only a few MPG worse FE.
Plus it was frankly a much crappier truck than the full size.
So GM has to make it acceptable to buy small.
26 mpg for the V6 isn't nearly enough. Dodge is leading in FS FE with 25 today and I have said I believe the new Ford will equal or beat that. But I also believe that Dodge is a $30,000 truck.
The Silverado is $5,000 more than a Colorado. And it gets 24 MPG with the 4.3 L V6. So right now the play is simply that it's "cheaper". And now it's more than a "few thousand" like it used to be.
But if you can buy a Ford F150 that gets BETTER FE for only it's only a "few thousand more".................
The Colorado needs to simply be a great product. Not just a smaller, cheaper alternative to the full size.
Starts to sound like the last game GM lost and the clock hasn't even started yet. |
You're still comparing a heavily discounted truck to a brand new model. When the redesigned silverado came out people bitched to holy hell that it was sooooo expensive compared to the 6 year old out going model. Well they forgot that the outgoing model was deeply discounted. If you compared its price when it was first released to the current gen they were only up a couple of grand despite all the new technology and engineering.
Same thing here. Wait for the discounts then compare to the silverado.
Also GM absolutely has to compete against the Tacoma an Frontier. Notice how the Tacoma sells in huge numbers? I don't see Toyota complaining that the Tudra is stealing sales from the Tacoma despite "only being a few grand more with a little (in some cases the same) fuel efficiency"
Your forgetting that there are a number of people who do not want a full size truck regardless of the price or FE.
That's who GM (and Toyota and Nissan) are aiming at.
I remember when sales of the new silverado lagged everyone calle it a failure but as soon as the 2013 inventory ofthe last gen was depleted and the discounts started rolling in, sales picked right back up to the point where I see more new silverados then old.
I predict the same will happen with the canyon and Colorado.