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Originally Posted by PoorMansCamaro
And then you will also have the 4 banger mustang probably faster than the v6 Camaro...
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Probably? Its a certainty. The EB Mustang will will be a mid to low 5 second 0 - 60 MPH car, and likely mid 13s at the strip. Its lighter, geared lower, and has more torque.
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Originally Posted by PoorMansCamaro
except I don't think GM is in competition with fords turbo 4, since fords 4 banger is the middle variant, and GM's supposed 4 banger is the low/base model.
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I agree...at least based on the sources I've read.
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Originally Posted by TheGhosty
I think we are seeing the death of the v6 mustang with these new numbers, which is a shame.
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I think so too...was the 305 power rating of the 2014 with premium as well? I always thought that was on regular fuel. Anyways, I think Ford wants to see low V6 sales for the first year or two, and then they'll just kill it. I think that will happen too, but won't it be something if the V6 actually sells well?
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Originally Posted by Muscle Car Memories
I never liked V6's in any form so I like the idea of that Turbo 4 from Ford, I am sure Chevy will soon follow suit...
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I believe they will, but you will not see GM just sit on its current V6 and hope for it to die like Ford and the new Mustang. The new LGX V6 will go into the next gen, and I suspect it will be the mid-grade engine....either that, or maybe GM will make a pretty awesome move, and offer a competitive T4, and the new V6 at basically the same price, instead of making one engine an optional upgrade over the other. I believe they are doing something like that with their Buicks?
Anyways, heres hoping I get my wish and the LGX is good for 335 - 340ish HP and 290 to 300 TQ in the 6th gen. Stock for stock, will make for a good fight against the EB Mustang. The EB will have superior low end torque, but the LGX Camaro would have a faster top end, and likely trap higher in the quarter mile.
Now, tune the EB and its all over for any V6 competitor, but I'm talking stock comparisons here. Something about the V6 makes me favor it more than a T4. If the LGX comes from the factory with similar power to what I said above, it will be easily moddable for a 350ish HP. That in a car that is lighter than the 5th gen sounds so very nice to me!
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Originally Posted by scrming
The torque curve on the EB probably will not be as flat as you would think for a turbo car... Most likely the stock calibration will have the boost come on very gradual, almost linearly... almost like a centrifugal.. That's what i've seen in the 3.5 and 2.0 EBs... and once you tune it so the boost comes on more aggressively, you'll probably find out they are using a very cute little turbo that will run out of steam in the upper RPMs...
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The EB motors are all turbo'd small and tuned for low end torque...thus the reason you see the huge amount of torque early on, and then tapers off considerably in the upper rpms. (I know you know this, but just saying for everyone else)
A larger turbo would produce huge power and TQ at peak rpms, but its not good for a daily driver which is supposed to get good gas mileage.
I think the tuned EB will be a very quick car, and give V8 owners gripes from a dig and short stop light to stop light runs. But you know someone is going to swap the small turbo for a larger one, change the pipe, and tune it and it will make huge power.