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Originally Posted by McRat

Bizarre Fantasy, based on existing GM parts and tech -

Camaro Ecotec, Area 51 Special Edition.

Color - Gloss black with flat black and red accents. Ghost Shark fender art from SR-71.

Dual 210HP ELR traction motors, front+back.
Nose contains switchable E85 turbo 4 with 270hp on gasoline.
16kwh traction battery.

Cost: $65k.
Seating: 4
Mileage: >100eMPG, or 30 gas MPG.
Electric-Only Range: 40mi.
Gas range: 300mi.
Weight: 3900lb
Performance: Top Speed - 190mph. 1/4mi - 12.50@108mph, 12.0@125mph E85 TurboMode.
HP: Eco - 210HP, Sport - 420HP, Competition - 690HP (60 seconds), TurboMode(E85) - 750HP.
Transmission: None.
Drive: AWD, all wheel regen.
Skidpan: >1.01g
Braking: >1.4g.

The CG would be lower than any existing performance GM product. The weight balance would be 50/50.

The drive system would work thus:

In Eco mode, either electric or gas powers just the front wheels.
Sport mode permits both electric motors to operate in AWD for 420HP.
Competition mode allows both electric motors to run, and the i4 to operate direct drive at 15psi boost on gasoline once road speed allows 2000rpm.
TurboMode requires E85 and boost levels increase to 25psi.

The additional weight comes from the battery and second electric motor.

Think of this as a V8 Camaro with a permanent nitrous bottle that is refilled automatically each night.

It will probably kill a GT-R at the dragstrip, but have a lower CG and all the goodness that comes with it.

But, you can also use it as an economy commuter if you wish. A driver who puts 12,000 miles a year on their car will use little if any gasoline.

That sounds extremely badass. Though I'll be honest, that sounds more like the car Cadillac should have built as a Tesla competitor rather than the ELR.

Originally Posted by x1sniper3x

I'm surprised at everyone hating on the 4-cylinder here...I mean, did you really think that GM wasn't going to add one for the 6th gen? Ford did it and GM has to respond...if they introduce a line-up with only the V6 and V8, then C&D, MT, and other outlets would jump all over GM for not having a more fuel-economic engine as an option. And it also allows for more high-end power in the Camaro, since it will raise the average MPG for the Camaro with the impending CAFE regulations. And so what if GM is adding it as an option? It's not like they're forcing everyone to buy a 4-cylinder...

We have enough in-fighting on this forum between the V8 and V6 crews, I'd really not like to see it get worse with the I4 crew coming in.

Onto other topics:

Someone mentioned the order of the engines before; I don't know if that necessarily has any correlation to their power. I just read them as increasing in number of cylinders/displacement: I4, V6, V8, SCV8. I wouldn't read into it too much as there's a chance Chevy will go the same route as Ford. We'll wait and see.

My big thing from this is that the freakin' LT4 is apparently in the 2016 line-up! I was expecting the LT1 SS to be top-dog for a year before introducing a ZL1 successor. Now we get the chance to see a 650 HP, 650 lb-ft monster of a Camaro!

Originally Posted by blake2010ss

I've heard of a new ctsv in the making. I don't know what v8 they are using for it..but I'd expect the zl1 would use that motor and not be exactly the same as the z06 motor....unless the V is the same as the z06 motor.


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I wouldn't be surprised that they both end up being variations on the LT4, just tuned and plumbed differently to make in the neighborhood of 630~640 hp and torque.