[Mydivorcegift]

Originally Posted by CFD

I'm not sure why you are being so defensive. I wasn't referring to anyone in particular especially anyone who's programs I've not read thoroughly and I'm not sure why you are so insistent that I read the programs you posted in depth either. I am very familiar with many programs outside of the classic 3-day or 4-day splits that you usually see me suggest for those getting into it as they are IMHO the best place to start. There are hundreds upon hundreds of programs that will provide great gains, there are some that require more training than the ones you mentioned, one that comes to mind would be Vince Giranda's 8 sets of 8 that train heavy 6 days a week, it's a well constructed program but it does not work the same muscle groups 2 days in a row as most don't because of the over training reason's I mentioned.

For some reason you are also trying to have me learn something I already know. I'm in no way putting down the programs or the designers of those programs but they are not for those just getting into it and not for those who are looking for fat loss as well

Defensive? LMAO...not even close....

You have done well and appear to be in good shape. I brought this up when you started talking about not training the same body part two days in a row, and it leads to overtraining and injuries, etc...Then someone chimed in and stated it as "the truth". It's not....it's actually false and wrong. So we will just chalk it up to you being one of those hard headed old dogs. Which is really too bad...you may could learn something, it could help you achieve whatever goals you want quicker. The enemy of great is good....

Now with regards to what's in red....I'd love, love for you to tell this to my girlfriend lol....