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Originally Posted by Mydivorcegift
In the time it took you to write all of these dissertations you could have read the articles and learned something. 
And I really, really hope you aren't referring to Louis Simmons as "self made guru's who's program is the best and all others are sub-par just like with fat loss, this diet or pill is the cat's meow and nothing else compares or those that cater to marketing more than results." While self made his programs for sure do not cater to marketing..... |
I'm not sure why you are being so defensive. I wasn't referring to anyone in particular especially anyone who's programs I've not read thoroughly and I'm not sure why you are so insistent that I read the programs you posted in depth either. I am very familiar with many programs outside of the classic 3-day or 4-day splits that you usually see me suggest for those getting into it as they are IMHO the best place to start. There are hundreds upon hundreds of programs that will provide great gains, there are some that require more training than the ones you mentioned, one that comes to mind would be Vince Giranda's 8 sets of 8 that train heavy 6 days a week, it's a well constructed program but it does not work the same muscle groups 2 days in a row as most don't because of the over training reason's I mentioned.
For some reason you are also trying to have me learn something I already know. I'm in no way putting down the programs or the designers of those programs but they are not for those just getting into it and not for those who are looking for fat loss as well
If you need to know the type of self made guru's I was referring to one that comes to mind who seems to be popping up every where is the founder of a new company called bio-trust, specifically Joel Marion. If you read his stuff and claims you will see what I am referring to.
One thing I have learned in my old age is this