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Old 12-05-2012, 05:46 PM   #237
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Originally Posted by fielderLS3 View Post

Here is what is wrong with that. A turbo-4 will likely cost more, not less than a N/A V6, so that blows the value argument. The turbo-4 has 53 less horsepower than the V6, so that blows the performance argument. Getting 3.3% better mileage on premium gas that costs 12% more than regular blows the save money on gas argument.

The turbo-4 is more efficient argument itself is a dubious one as well. The ATS 2.0T gets a 31 mpg rating. The Camaro 3.6L gets a 30 mpg rating. Put the same V6 into a lighter, more aerodynamic 6th gen Camaro, and that likely becomes 31-32, with superior performance. Turbo engines also tend to miss their rated numbers by more than N/A engines. They are efficient within the light-footed idealized EPA tests, but in the real world where people actually use the gas pedal, not so much. Just ask the Ecoboost crowd.
IF Chevy decides to keep the turbo four at its current power level, then I agree with you for the most part. I hope to see the V6 as well. But here is how I see it happening:

If Ford releases a 310+HP turbo 4 in the next Mustang as they are rumored to be doing, then I see Chevy looking to counter that with their own 300+ HP turbo 4. Its not like getting past 300 is all that difficult. If the power is over 300 (and the torque will likely be around that as well) then it is difficult to justify the V6 from a performance standpoint. Your other points about cost and mileage still hold merit though.

Now, I can see the V6 coming if they make the turbo 4 have under 300 horse. Then there is plenty of room for it in the performance category (The V6 should have 330+ HP) and offer the V6 model at a competitive price with Fords turbo 4 Mustang.

I do want to point out one thing nobody has brought up, and that is 8 speed autos. By the time the 6th gen rolls around, it will for sure have a 7 or 8 speed auto doing a couple things. One....increasing highway mileage. Two...making the car even faster than it would be already with the lower weight. With the combination of less weight and an 8 speed, I see no reason why 32-35 MPG highway, and mid 5 second 0 - 60 and mid 13 second 1/4 miles wouldn't be possible (unless they gear it really high as well).

Bottom line for me....in any case I hope to see a V6 offering! Baring some turbo 4 with magical performance, I'd prefer the V6. But I definitely see the case for the turbo 4 and I'm sure it will arrive.
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