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Originally Posted by eolson
JusticePete, I could not agree more. A month back I posted the same opinion about the GT500. With the improvements SVT made to the 2011 and 20012 GT500 concerning the engine, engine weight, why not put all that money they put into the new 650HP engine development, and spend it on the chassis, suspension, brakes, and more weight loss.
550 Horses put down properly on a lighter better handling car would have been more than enough. We know truthfully though, that all of us road course and handling fans that love our Mustangs are slaves to the Drag Racing crowd, and Ford has put off suspension technological improvements for years to please the straight line fans of the car. I could only hope that they have solved the real issues of the 3 link solution as you have mentioned, but I doubt it.
We would have heard of a "monocoque" improvement by now I would think if it had been a vast improvement. Erik
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Because there's a limit to what they can do with the current chassis, and considering it is extremely likely there will be an all new (or at least mostly new) chassis for the 2015 model year, it doesn't make sense to spend a huge amount of money on the outgoing chassis. And I doubt it really cost them much to increase the power output. We're talking about an overbore and off the shelf components (TVS2300, Ford GT cams).
These are the facts, most of which guys like JusticePete like to ignore:
1. In the only head to head test, the 2012 GT500 beat the 2012 Boss. Yes, the GT500 doesn't brake or handle as well as the Boss.
JUST LIKE the ZL1 wouldn't brake as well or handle as well as a Camaro that had the ZL1 suspension and brakes but a lighter non supercharged engine. If you want 550-650 supercharged horsepower you are going to pay a weight penalty, which (with identical brakes and suspension) is going to translate into a braking and handling penalty. That is a fact, and is the same for both the Camaro and the Mustang.
2. The 2013 makes more power, but puts around the same amount of torque to the ground. This means better overall acceleration
without increased traction issues, because you can hold gears longer and avoid as many up and downshifts.
3. The 2013 has better brakes, one of the reasons the 2012 GT500 isn't more faster than the Boss.
4. The 2013 has more aggressive suspension, another reason the 2012 GT500 isn't more faster than the boss.
5. The 2013 has improved downforce, yet another reason its performance will be increased vs. the Boss (and vs. the 2012 GT500).
6. The 2013 has a torsen LS, yet another reason its performance will be increased vs. the 2012 GT500.
7. The 2013 has improved engine, supercharger, transmission, and differential cooling, yet another reason road course performance will be improved vs. the 2012 GT500.
Does JusticePete think the 2013 GT500 will be faster than a 2012 GT500 on a road course? Here's what he says, direct cut and paste: "not much if at all."
Does anyone really think that is a reasonable conclusion, based on the points I have outlined above?