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Old 03-16-2011, 09:47 PM   #10443
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Originally Posted by syr74 View Post
It's not the same engine, and don't assume that the engine is more expensive just because it's newer.
I'm not assuming -- it's just some simple logic on my part for the purposes of speculation. More power = More $$$....in just a little more detail, they're going to need stronger parts to hand the higher powers under a factory warranty, the TVS units are more expensive than the old pieces they replaced several years ago, and the powertrain/transmission/etc that will need to be upgraded to go with it will be more expensive. There's just no escaping it.

And I didn't know this was a "new" engine. The article posted made it sound like they massaged the 5.4L

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I disagree, Mustang isn't just an affordable 2+2, it's more than that and long has been.
Can you elaborate on that? I can accept everything up to the current GT500 as "affordable"...beyond that, while I understand the Mustang is Ford's only high-performance vehicle at the moment, I begin question the thought process...

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I agree here, the Camaro and Mustang are, in some ways, more different than they get credit for. Mustang is Ford's take on the same concept the 911 covers for Porsche in a less expensive car. To wit, it can and likely will cover a wide range of offerings in terms of price and performance.
Yes. They are much different. While raised of the same automotive soup...these two cars have evolved very differently over time. Nowadays, Chevy has the unique problem of trying to balance both priorities and resources between the Camaro and the Vette. While the Mustang has the advantage of Ford's full and uninterrupted attention.

Gosh....I'd love to write a book on how things have changed....

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Originally Posted by JusticePete View Post
The discussion is interesting, but all that matters if the number of units sold. At the moment, the Camaro is out selling the Mustang. Regardless of the HP or models or whatever right now the Camaro is winning. With the new vert out I expect the Camaro to outsell the mustang again in the 2011 model year. Consumers vote with their wallets and those votes count more than opinions.

The flip side of this is that the Mustang has been in continuous production since the first in 1964. Ford has won by that measure which again is a function of number of units sold.
I had considered alluding to this before...Despite the plethora of upgrades the Mustang's received since 2009, Camaro is still outselling it. And despite the automotive media's swooning, the public is displaying a higher interest in Camaro as well...I don't think a limited-appeal Boss, or a steroidal GT500 is going to change that dynamic very much; while they're both very nice cars. (One being nothing more than a bit less than 'official', at this point).

But...as you so eloquently said: -- Mustang was here first; And has never left.
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