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Originally Posted by Supermans
From 1993 to 2001, the Camaro's HP was not 350 stock.. At most in 2001 it was 325.. Anyways, I'm a 5th gen Camaro enthusiast, I am not an expert in all things Camaro but I do know HP ratings for the older Camaro's due to many friends owning them and I read a lot of magazines back then as a hobby. BTW, the Mustangs Coyote 5.0 engine is also underrated which has been proven in dyno's.. The SS was not underrated. In all cases, weight does have a huge effect in 0-60 times..
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No the coyote is not under rated IMO. It is SAE certified at 412hp. It dynoes roughly the same as the LS3 camaro (every dyno done between the two cars on the same day with the same dyno shows this as well as various other RELIABLE sources)which adds up perfectly because it will lose a bit less through its drive-train and smaller wheel/tire combo. Yes some have dynoed in the 390 range but some ls3's have dynoed in the 390 range stock as well (a person who just posted in this thread dynoed 390 stock matter of fact)...dyno discrepancies. A couple dynoes have been recently posted with the two cars on the same day showing them to be nearly equal in horsepower and the 5.0 down a bit on torque (and behind for nearly the whole RPM range in both hp/tq)...did you miss these?
How could the coyote be under rate while the LS3 is not by looking at the dyno numbers alone? They are only 14 hp apart which could easily be lost through the Camaro drivetrain etc. And even so...how under rated could it be?...it is already 250lbs lighter putting down similar numbers to the wheels with better gearing...yet only slightly quicker stock for stock. If it is under rated im sure not seeing it so far...
And yes...the 98-02 ls1 car was underrated and made roughly 350hp from the factory. 01-02 cars had an LS6 style intake but also a slightly smaller cam. The difference between 98-02 cars is paper thin. FYI the 12.89 run done by Evan Smith in a 4th gen was done in a plain jane 99 z28.
93-97 was the LT-1 car...which was 275-285hp....which was slightly under rated at best. Their was also a rare LT-4 (borrowed from the 96 corvette grand sport) option 97 SS which was available. These were 330hp and ran just about as quick as an LS1 car.
For being such a camaro enthusiast you sure like to skew some of your opinions in the mustangs favor