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Originally Posted by gtahvit
I should have been more clear, C v R for the consumer at the pump is in the negative. I shouldn't have left that out. 
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Ah. I see.
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Originally Posted by gtahvit
And I do completely agree with you that the Gov setting unrealistic standards to get votes is going to be rediculously to the disadvantage of the car consumer also. I just don't want to compound the problem by adding a gas tax to the cost of high technology cars...
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No, I know, I know....Ideally, the whole tax thing would be in PLACE of CAFE...it would encourage the automakers from all over to make higher mileage vehicles...it wouldn't FORCE them to.
So, this does three things:
1: Increases gov't revenue, 2: decreases demand for gasoline, and therefore curbs consumption, and 3: Gives car companies ample reason to build higher-mileage cars...and it lets them advance their products at a realistic rate.
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Originally Posted by gtahvit
Sorry guys, I'm firmly in the category of cut spending and cut programs first. Get the Gov under control and then see what the revenue needs are.
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Me too -- and I don't want to sound like I encourage wasteful spending in government. It's just that (and I'm sure you know), when you pitch a proposal, you need to make it sound appealing to the people it would effect. Since this would be to the gov't...more money sounds appealing, does it not?
They talk about bloated, failed car companies...they should look in the mirror...hopefully what you say (^) will occur in some degree over the next years...but that's for another thread...In my perfect world, they'd lower income taxes, and raise the gas tax all while reducing spending and costs, etc. This way they wouldn't really be getting anything more, but it would still provide the consumption-lowering effect of ahigh gas prices. Actually...very similar to the cigarette tax...
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Originally Posted by Georgie
(try not paying your taxes)
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What advantage would there be to that?
Whether we like it or not, the gov't NEEDS money to run, and whether we like it or not, we NEED the government.

If I listened right in history class...they tried a no-tax policy when the states were formed in the late 1700s. But it failed miserably.