[Jamie Mac]

I've always said "the more your willing to then the less likely you'll have to". Provide him with the number for child services and ask him if he'd like to straighten up or have a reason to call it. Don't make false threats period. Follow through on whatever you say consequences are. Self esteem my ass, build that kid some character! I once asked my dad "or else what?" I didn't have to wait. I was tied to a chair and my head was shaved. Everything in my room went out the window. This was the 70's when long hair was still in. Going to elementary school with a shaved head was not fun. Good luck

BTW, I once saw in Dirt Rider Magazine where a father had caught his two sons smoking pot and lying to him. He drove them and their dirtbikes to work and had them watch as a roller crushed them flat. I think he got his point across to them.