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Originally Posted by Sara/AWE
Hey David,
That was precisely why I wanted to jump in as I saw there was a miscommunication between one of our sales team (John) and yourself about whether we are in R&D on a new Camaro system.
Every project, even ones that seem "easy" or straightforward need to be fully vetted, tested, and put through our R&D process internally at our headquarters. We don't skip steps so we can be proud of what we produce here, but that does mean these things take time and have to go through the proper channels.
What I also want to be clear about is that I am not saying we are *never* coming out with another option, but the facts of the situation is that we are not in R&D on a new system for Camaro and it is not on the list at this current moment in time. Being able to show interest from actual members of the community (yourselves) through the new product request form is the fastest/easiest way to change that, but we will need to show significant interest to get a project approved.
Not discounting the great setup you custom made from our components, it is certainly impressive, just trying to be clear about what is going on so we can be transparent with the community.
I am sure you already know our Touring edition has 180 tech resonators to cancel drone, but your comments about volume I did want to dive deeper. Have tracks told you that even the Touring Edition is too loud for competiton? Does anyone feel the Touring Edition is too loud and are looking for another option with less volume?
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Originally Posted by Z OH 6 View Post
I am impatiently waiting on that CT5-V Blackwing system. If it's not released soon, I may have to go with Corsa which wasn't my first choice, but it's been available for quite some time.
Trust me I wish it was out already too, but like I said before, the valve behavior was vastly different than we were anticipating so it required more testing and prototyping of the system.
To clarify my comment that you highlighted as it seems the point was missed, I was curious if a track specifically told OP that his Touring was too loud and if they set parameters for his car as that is not something I have seen specifically with our Camaro Touring system. Asking for more info so I can understand the full picture if/when they ask what exactly is needed out of another system I have a good answer for them.
-Sara |
Hey Everyone!!!
My apologies for not chiming in all week since before Turkey Day... had food coma and then lost several friends in Florida this weekend due to a boating accident. I've had no desire to be online with people using comments to flame wars and texts from people who have no connection to the incident, "hey... did you hear?" by others not truly in our circle. Being online is not been on my list of spending time relaxing with my better-half.
I will say it has been nice driving my ZLE on a 1600+mile RoadTrip with zero driving fatigue a day after pulling it out of the trailer post-track weekend at Road Atlanta, swapping the wheels for street tires and spinning the front strut mounts for street camber FTW! Best MPGs were yesterday in I-95N traffic from Palatka, Florida to Tybee Island Gawja at 24.4mpg!!
So allow me to address what seems to be the elephant in the thread. I have never said this system was a done deal, asked for someone to buy it nor inferred that it was ready or in any stage of such. I have maintained that I have developed under the guidance of to my understanding, a Salesman who has been there for quite a while and knows how the Sausage is Made as I just got off the phone with him moments before logging in to type this response. I have said to many people, I am building it on my dime, bought all the parts, realized the high quality of the AWE components and even in my videos shared the link so people can request it to be considered, not as a guarantee of it actually happening. I am essentially doing the "proof of concept" on my dime, sharing the results so you will know where this influx of requests are originating from and
THEY ARE VALID!
As for the AWE Touring system... its still too loud. When you have a 2" primary Header with a merging 3" collector and no kitties, she gonna be loud (use a Forrest Gump Voice)! The 180-tech resonators are simply a single perforated tube which allows flow and expansion in both directions... the 180-tech system does not merge the two exhaust banks to further cancel sub/supersonic wavelengths of sound before they reach a megaphone of an exhaust tip. SO... does AWE make a 3"-ID 4"-OD tip..???
I can and have been offering since June-ish... to do all the hard work by prototyping your parts on my car. I have offered to deliver my car and leave it with your R&D team over the next few months while I focus on our Yacht build, since I will not be able to go track much in Jan/Feb. The CT4 & CT5 use the exact same spring loaded valve actuators as do all the performance Cadillac products. These Caddy valve actuators are far more robust than the ZL1 offering. The AWE Caddy-Valves use a much larger 3"-ID butterfly with a truly badass shaft support bearing and it is by far one of the nicest welded components for an exhaust system I have seen.
KUDOS to AWE! As you can see by the attached photos to this thread, the GMParts Online for this actuator is nearly half the price of the junk ZL1 part, partly due to the fact of Cadillacs are still in production. This actuator requires a stainless spring that is also offered on every Hellcat, and sold on Amazon. The best part... my kit that I built from the CT4 components came with the extension harnesses to make it Plug-N-Play. And it plays NICE!!
There are several tracks that I LOVE to visit and the issues with going to Barber Motorsports Park or AMP, Road Atlanta (My Home Track) and even CMP nearby my house at a 45min drive all have noise limits on Sundays. When spending $2-3K per trackday weekend in travel, entry fees and insurance... losing a session or two really cuts into the value that has now been offset by the merging of the exhaust system in the Switchpath crossflow muffler. Even my OEM NPP suitcase was too loud at some tracks with the system I have.
My hope is that we can all work together as I have four ZLEs at my shop, each one needs this AWE Switchpath system Axle-Back in a kit.
And Sara... THANKS for being a part of such a great company!!