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Originally Posted by Road_Warrior85
A few other people have already done a pretty good job of explaining the allocation system, so I wont dig into that. It supports my original notion, that the dealer screwed you, not chevy.
Chevy continued producing Camaros at the same rate as always. They weren't the shortcoming. Your dealer, who knows the allocation system/process, was not honest with you and strung you along. They were more interested in "Hopefully" getting a sale down the road, than they were helping you get the car that you wanted.
If they really wanted you to get the car you wanted, they could have reached out to another dealer, and given them your order, then had the car shipped to them. Extra steps for sure, but it gets you what you want and each dealer gets a little bit of money from the deal. No different than dealers getting cars off the lot from other dealers and having them shipped in to sell.
That you didn't get your 2023 is unfortunate as well. Once again though, your dealer screwed you. They knew they didnt have the allocations to get your 2023 order filled. Once Chevy stops accepting orders for the '23 year, it doesn't matter that you were still waiting to get one. Your dealership never got the order submitted. Chevy never even knew about you. The dealer probably made you put down a deposit, that you ultimately lost out on. In their eyes its a win/win. Either they get to sell you the car you want, or they get to take your deposit and run.
As for everything else..... your age made it all make sense.
I imagine the dealer also used that against you to take advantage of you. Either way, you're set in your ways and unwilling to compromise. That's not an insult, thats normal for your demographic. To all us younger types, we see ditching the manufacturers tires as 100% expected, especially once they wear down and we want to replace them with better tires suited to our use. Thats what the vast majority of us do, your demographic.... not so much.
Its pretty standard that a manufacturer produces each vehicle spec'ed out for a compromise of uses. If you've been on this forum any decent amount of time and read much at all, you already know that the culture of camaro owners (much like owners of mustangs, challengers, jeeps, or motorcycles) is to buy the vehicle and then change parts to tailor it to their specific use. So when you come here and say that it has to come "as designed by the manufacture" with the perfect spec tires for your use, it sounds weird (if not outright absurd) the the vast majority of people on this page.
I hope I haven't come across like an @sshole or d!ckhead too much. I am not trying to.
I could never be happy with a stock vehicle, they're always going to need to be modified to fit my tastes and driving style. Nothing is wrong with you having a different preference.
I hope your car suits your needs and you enjoy it.
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It's not necessarily an age but more of a personality thing. Some people won't touch a stock car at age 25 to 75, others swap parts one inch past the dealership's exit gate (I'm past 50 and look at my signature or even more at my garage page, tons of mods small and large).
Overall it is not unreasonable to expect a manufacturer to be able to supply a product that it allows to be ordered within a decent timeframe, or, in this case, at all. I think we can agree on that.
On the other hand, some flexibility in methods and compromises on specs is needed these days if your ultimate target is to get "a" Camaro, no question about it, but it seems his goal was a specific "all-or-nothing" proposition.
Again, I don't necessarily read age into this, at least not as in "y'all just get old and cranky and inflexible"---the main reason age may matter is people's historical experiences and having already seen what things were and could be like. Someone in their late teens, early twenties has no point of reference just yet, they're just establishing their baselines, so they bend more easily. Some people never learn jack s**t, though, so their age is not really relevant
, while others are "old souls" at 20 years of age, go figure.