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Originally Posted by Number 3
The engines and chassis are pretty good in the non V8 cars. Chassis is excellent engines are ok, particularly the V6 (same as in my LaCrosse lol) being just so so.
That isn’t the issue.
The issue is why aren’t they selling and I can absolutely assure you it’s not lack of a TV commercial. Mustang is selling just fine and fine enough to get a NG car and not even a commercial for that car.
GM has all the data in the world you and I won’t ever see on why this is to back this up.
Almost all of the people in this site are here because of the V8 cars. The performance was a game changer when it launched. Bit the fundamental design and architecture resulted in a less compelling car if you simply want a sporty coupe. Remember everyone is going to SUVs for some consistent reasons and the Gen6 Camaro offers zero accommodation in this regard.
If you want a sporty coupe (not a sports car or muscle car) your expectations are far different than if you want the best performance car in the segment. If you chose an L4 or a V6 you’ve already made that clear.
Outward vision, trunk space, lift over height and zero rear seat (GM admitted this at launch if you recall) are huge.
Remember we’ve had people state their visibility is better than a Lamborghini on this very site, so therefore it MUST be ok.
Sorry but the sale numbers tell you everything and the ONLY counter anyone on this site has is “TV commercials” ignoring the simple fact the Mustang has zero commercials.
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Appreciate the damning with faint praise of the non-V8 engines. I have never used the lack of TV commercials as evidence of a marketing shortfall. I maintain it is a lack of coordinated, continued development of the product TO be marketed. You just can't just put out a model range of cars, give it a mid-cycle sheet metal refresh, call it a day and then complain about declining sales. Ford and Dodge don't do this and they reap the benefits.
And one last word on the all important issue of trunk space (which is ample, by the way, it's just the narrow opening). The Malibu has been in production since 2009 with a trunk opening not terribly larger than the Camaro (I owned a 2012) and it is definitely something you have to live with. But people have been living with it on that platform for fourteen years.
I really don't have anything more to say except what I keep hearing from you and others is an autopsy of why the patient died. I essentially agree the death was more or less inevitable (no 7th gen coming), but end of life quality could have been a lot better (more sales) if the right people had wanted it badly enough.