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Old 09-24-2023, 10:45 AM   #898
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JMO from where I sit-

If you listen to pros and cons of EVs, there's merits to both. They'll brush off evidence as a one-off or simply overlook it, like so many other things people that want to love or not love something. So far promises haven't been keeping up with actual livibility/practicality.

Anecdotal evidence is strong when you see it (or don't see it) on the street. And I wasn't seeing a bunch of EVs running around in the UK/Ireland. And I was looking. Maybe they were at home charging or something. Didn't see them all over the streets over there. I did notice the car dealerships had a lot of new cars on them, some packed full. So it's not like cars of any type are flying off the lots best I could tell.

Granted, a lot of public transportation, but still, ICE on those. Sorry. Not feeling the wave. Barely a ripple. And just a handful of people fighting over one public charging station pole position was somewhat amusing. Because if sales keep going at this tidal wave effect, people will have to get out their hamster wheel and hook it to a generator to keep their car charged.

It's probably why PM Rishi Sunak was on TV the other day saying basically, when it came to infrastructure, they bit off more than they could chew and may have to revise goals a bit concerning EV and ICE production. Infrastructure support at this point is dreadful. Smartest man to get on TV lately and say what needed to be said. If it's true, it's going to be ok. You'll get there someday. But not tomorrow like the crazy zealots want it to.
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One can make an argument for EVs, but the narrative seems to be out of sync with reality. I haven't seen any figures on repeat sales. That's what I'd consider a strong voice for something. They hype the "new thing" only to have it fizzle out because nobody wants them until forced to buy them, even though they still don't want them. They call it incentivizing, but let's call it what it is, forcing people to choose what they want you to have instead of what you want.

I stand by my original thoughts on this that the world isn't ready for the influx of new EVs, and EVs won't and can't be produced (yet) at the rate ICE cars are.

And hardly anyone talks about the risk side of owning an EV. They may here on this forum, but trust me, all the pro-EV people I've listened to conveniently avoid that subject. It's not an ICE car, so it will be different. How? Um...it's electric. So no emissions, right? Wrong. Oh, now Nissan modified its ads to say zero tailpipe emissions.

So, someday, when everyone has an EV and it costs you $65-75 or more to recharge it, will it have been worth it? It's crazy if you think about it. They pass a bill to inject a gazillion dollars toward infrastructure only to allow power companies to cry that it's not enough and they have to raise rates. Tell me that doesn't happen.

If you got money, don't worry about it. But if you're living paycheck to paycheck, there's probably an electric bus in your future. Or a tiny little johnny cab.

And just make sure your charging cord is long enough to reach outside. I don't think we're done with eternal flame risks just yet.

If I lived in the city in a condo or apartment, I'd worry about the folks with the electric bikes that bring them inside to charge them.
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