[oldman]

Originally Posted by Fstlane

There is no such thing as too much horsepower, just not enough traction.

Carol Shelby

So how does everyone get there? I know there are lots of you pushing 1000 HP plus, let's hear how you stick it to the ground!

Shelby, signed my GLH-S owner's manual, said it was the best car he ever built. That was in front of all the Mustang guys BTW, which never let me join their "shelby" club.

I don't know how much HP I have I have tried PS4 and Nitto 555 (run them for many decades). Now that I'm in Hawaii the 555 don't have enough wet traction so I run PS4. The roads in Texas seem to have a nice dry coat of granite and the roads in Hawaii seem to have a very high tar content this is offset somewhat by the pointy or sharp texture of the lava rock base. IN contrast there are some coast states that seem to have high tar content and much smoother rock, these states offer less traction IMO of course. I assume the high tar content if for wet conditions and keeps the stones more locked in. Anyway the most dependent thing is if is an auto or a manual. My car with traction control off must absolutely be babied in the upsifts 1 to 2 and 2 to 3, it will absolutely fishtail and can under some conditions make you get new bibs. WOT can be had even optimal conditions to the top of 3rd gear. WOT is completely out in first and say cold Fall night can't be used in 2nd either. No way to use no lift shift or any type of speed shifting cause you will die. The car can literally hop 1/2 a lane on faster shifts or too much power being applied. IMO a manual is limited to say 600 WHP on PS4s on my centri setup (way less mid range torque). Sure your millage may vary. I also owned two supercharged Challengers and street smackdown many more, these cars are even more limited by traction and really as funny as it sounds a TrackHawk is probably the better drivetrain package.

I will say with traction control on the car is a drift king, I've done many turns with a application of power the car will drift to a point that traction control to straighten it out, sometimes I feel like an autoX professional, in turn apply a little throttle car drifts and traction control pulls it straight down the road, it has taken me years to get use to this but it is fun. This may work on an auto but since you never know what gear or slip of the converter, you just don't have the direct feel of the road and rear balance, and um no don't try to nail the throttle in a turn or once again the shiny side turns over in the ditch. Just a smooth application of the throttle usually in 2nd gear and the car will just drift.. I also have a manual supercharged Miata that does the same thing...