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Originally Posted by radz28
First - definitions:
The panels over the FRONT wheels are FENDERS.
The panels over the REAR wheels are QUARTER PANELS.
So it's clear - you're stating the REAR facia doesn't fit on the driver's side rear facia-to-quarter panel? And you're stating you found damage to the transportation anchor points on the FRONT of the chassis? Further - you're stating you think these are interconnected, causing the resulting rear facia damage you showed pictures of?
If I stated that correctly: they are NOT related. It DOES look like some of the rear facia issues are it was not seated to the tail light correctly. That could have cause the facia to misalign to the mounting clip on the quarter panel, making it stick out. That is all easily correctable, and would only require, probably just a partial removal of the facia. Perhaps it might require a full removal, and reinstallation, but it is NOT a big deal, from what images you've shared.
As far as the transportation anchor points - they are NOT part of the crash protection. That is blown out of proportion completely. They're aluminum panels, and not that big a deal. It's better they didn't bend the bolts for the shear panel inches away, but while - YES - those look crappy, they are NOT a big deal either.
I wouldn't suggest to you these aren't in the least bit irritating, but I would say that your many assertions are not informed. Are these acceptable for a car this price? No - I would not argue that. I would accept that QA/QC is an issue for the facia, but the factory can't be held accountable for a dealership not racking the car correctly, and that's not a QA/QC-issue. I could see an argument for an engineering issue, but that's stretching it a bit, too.
All I'm trying to say that making claims these are safety-related or whatnot is not reasonable, nor true. Again - I'm not taking anything away from your feelings of frustration or anything, and that this is a HUGE inconvenience (I purchased a car, from about the same distance from the dealer as you, so I get it), but these are not reasonable claims. BUT - make your call, and I'd see if there were a dealer that was closer that you could do a warranty claim with for the facia. There's nothing you can do about the anchors, unless you want them mangled into being straight by a body shop, or worse - have them cut off, and new ones welded back on... Which means you're going to destroy the OEM corrosion protection and welds that are still superior to what body shops will do... And yes - I've worked at dealerships and in body shops (QUALITY body shops), so it's reasonable to say I know what happens and what it means to leave OEM alone, for the sake of the car...
But - it is YOUR car, and YOUR money. I do wish you good luck, either way. It does suck that you have to go through this though.
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Thanks for your contribution radz28.
Correct: The rear facia does not have correct fitment over the left quarter panel.
No: I did not state the anchor points were damaged on the front of the vehicle.
I don't know of any anchor points on the ZL1. The pinch welds are not anchor points.
The vehicle appears to have been lifted up on a part of the undercarriage.
This undercarriage is part of the assembly for a stiffener/stabilizer bar that reaches to the other side of the chassis.
It also looks to be spot welded to another part of the cars underbelly.
I cannot see close enough where the other mounting contact point is for this particular undercarriage component.
The damaged undercarriage component appears to be a structural piece of the vehicle.
So, yes I feel this is a safety concern in a high performance vehicle as a ZL1
No: I do not believe the rear facia misalignment and the damaged undercarriage component is related to each other.
It just happens to be another find.
I agree: I believe the misalignment of the rear facia is a small issue and can be resolved with re-alignment and perhaps some new clips.
The rear facia does not have any visible impact zones or identifiers showing cause for misalignment.
My best guess is an assembly issue from factory.
Correct: I believe this is a QA/QC issue from the factor regarding the misaligned facia.
No: I never mentioned the factory was a factor in the crushed undercarriage component.
I did state that I believed this was from a lift or a jack that was not positioned properly during PDI to remove the "spring spacers".
This is performed at the dealership and they would be the responsible party, not GM/Chevrolet.