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Originally Posted by Msquared
Going back to a spoiler-only rule and leaving all other rules the same won't change anything about the pax. Rear downforce is not the limiting aspect of CAM aero: front downforce is. A properly implement 10" spoiler is still capable of making more rear downforce than the allowed front aero can balance out. As with rear wings and spoilers, though, I'm not seeing a front splitter design and dive planes that are maximized within the rules.
This is kind of a detour from the thread topic, but the real issue with CAM and pax is that nobody - and I mean nobody - is running a car that's even close to maximizing the full CAM rule set. If you started your CAM build with a production car platform, you already gave up huge opportunities. CAM actually allows a bespoke tube-frame chassis and any suspension one wishes, as long as it retains stock wheelbase for the car it's trying to emulate. You can also put a full carbon fiber body on it, set the engine anywhere in front of the driver, etc. Think along the lines of Mike Dusold's "Camaro." All you have to do is trick your state into licensing it and (maybe) inspecting it. A proper CAM building should require about 500lb of ballast to make minimum weight, it should have a very low CG, and it should have a weight bias of about 40/60. It should not be remotely streetable, even though it must technically be legal to drive on the street. Anything less than that is not a full CAM build.
This is why I got the hell out of CAM: the rules are just plain ridiculous. CAM-S is even worse: you are explicitly allowed to run a kit car replica of a British roadster with a 90" wheelbase and any engine you want at 2500lbs (which done properly still requires ballast), but a 84+ Corvette has to run at 2900lbs because they are believed to have magical powers. why nobody has emulated Kiesel's Sprite but on a 90" wheelbase with an AC Cobra body is beyond me, but you get the idea of how fast and unstreetable a proper CAM-S build should really be. CAM sort of implies that it's about modified production cars that still get driven on the street, but it very much isn't. It is not a class for "hotrodders," and yet those are the only people interested in running in it. The current state of CAM is a hot mess.
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Yup, I even looked into how much a used GT4R Camaro costs, unfortunately the answer is about $150k. Half that and I'd be trying to buy one, can't imagine how much fun it would be. Registering one could be tricky, but possible in some places, lol. I'm not that interested in spending a ton on my SS 1LE or compromising it as a street car that much either.
The issue with current rules is there's no ST class that our cars fit into, STU is full of much smaller cars more suitable for autox and a .830 PAX. So anyone with mods past FS is in CAM by default, there's nowhere else to go. CAM-T should theoretically be slightly faster than CAM-C with it's smaller cars and lighter minimum weights. We have 2 Fox body Mustangs with IRS conversions running 315s at ~3000 lbs...
It's really not a huge deal as far as results as nobody is paying me, but it's frustrating to prep a car for one set of rules with a .819 PAX only to have the rules and PAX change so drastically. If I would have known I'd probably have remained in the street classes and have that nice, soft .813 FS PAX, lol.