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Originally Posted by cooldawg
Of course, anyone who resists this big push to EVs are now anti-progress, knuckle dragging, chuckleheads with regards to technology. Just ignore the potential issues with the grid, which we all depend on in some measure. You’re free to enjoy your Tesla 3 and the tax credits that came with it. You won. The EPA is on your side, obviously. Enjoy those tax credits as ICE proponents/ users are surely exposed to economic penalties of various forms in the near and distant future. The gas guzzler tax is more of a ‘luxury tax’ now, but the threshold will of course be lowered.
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Let me be clear, I am not ignoring the current issues that face EV's. But I am not going to come here and claim EV's will fail because of TODAY'S issues. The grid can be upgraded, though it seems like everyone enjoys arguing over it vs actually doing something about it. Charging stations can be added just like gas stations.
Also another point of clarification, I received NO TAX CREDITS when I bought my Model 3. Tesla long went past the 200,000 sales( just like GM did) resulting in losing the credits when I bought my 3 last year. I bought the 3 because I liked. Not because I wanted to be green or wanted my purchase to be subsidized. I liked how it drove and fit my lifestyle with foreseen uses of the car. If it did not, I would not own it. EV's are not practical for everyone today and I am not here to convince you they are. What I am sick of is trying to claim EV's won't get better and what is offered today is all that EV's are capable of. It's not that I am labeling them as anti-progress, but calling out their belief progress can't happen and the issues that face EV's today can't be solved in the next couple of decades as the transition occurs. Everyone is acting like ICE vehicles will be banned tomorrow. This will be a 2-3 decade transition.
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Just curious, do you tow anything? Do you own a boat? Would you be willing to admit that the likely reason Ford chose to produce and market this ‘truck’ is a haste in the market born from government picking winners and losers? I know sales were lagging, but is a similar dynamic playing a role with GM punting the next generation Camaro?
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My mom tows a horse trailer and they own a Suburban for that purpose.
My point being the F-150 lightning will be a great vehicle for a lot of people. The people who actually use trucks( and Suburban's for that matter) for towing is a small amount of people just like the people who take their Camaro's to the track are a small amount of the demographics of Camaro owners. A pickup truck has become a lifestyle vehicle then a vehicle being bought for the purpose of towing and hauling. Just like it's cool to own an iPhone or want to be seen in a BMW or whatever luxury vehicle. So an EV pick up fits that bill perfectly and will easily be able to haul groceries.
For those that need a truck for towing and hauling, an ICE powered vehicle is still the best vehicle and in no danger of going away in the next decade or two.