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Old 04-29-2022, 01:08 PM   #73
Martinjlm
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I'm actually really curious to see how long EVs are going to be a thing? The natural resources required for EV batteries are not as abundant as fossil fuels.
Actually, they are even more plentiful. There are just different processes required to access them. Especially if it needs to be done in a manner to avoid conflict areas. Lithium is in the oceans, the mountains, in mines. As the prices for lithium rise, different processes become more financially viable and more lithium is available. And, contrary to the name, there is very little actual lithium in lithium ion batteries.

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Even now, dealers are unable to get replacement batteries for aging hybrid vehicles as all the batteries are associated to new vehicle production. It wouldnt surprise me to see a trend back towards gas vehicles in a decade or two as lithium discoveries waiver and the competition of many industries that are going to be competing for those materials used in battery production will increases. Unless engineers can figure out a way to recycle the batteries, this EV trend won't be sustainable for as long as ICE has been in existence.
There are already companies in the business of remanufacturing car batteries. Not recycling (although those exist too) but remanufacturing.

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It'll be interesting to see play out over the next 40 years.
Actually surprised domestic manufacturers haven't made strides in turbo diesel power plants in sedans like the Europeans have.
Europe is sprinting away from diesel. Been that way for a few years now, since dieselgate.
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