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Originally Posted by KingLT1
Its not about peak torque...it's about a broad torque curve. The LT6 won't have that. It will be a linear curve that will need to downshift to get it up in power to pull. I agree the gearing will help but it's still not going to pull like a engine that makes over 500ft lbs at 2k rpm. Even the LT1 makes 400ft lbs at 2k rpm. It's nice when you don't have to downshift several gears to pull hard on a street car. For a track car sure High RPM is Lyfe and that apparently is GM's goal. I am ok with that just not my cup of tea.
The Hellcat is only as quick off the line as a ZL1 because the TCM doesn't let the throttle open all the way in 1st gear. Dodge tuning is more aggressive on both the ECU and TCM from the factory...GM tuning is soft and always has been. Both the ZL1 and HC have very broad torque curves regardless of where peak torque is.
I personally am not a fan of the exotic sound coming from a Vette. I do like the looks of the Car...GM did well on the C8Z design. If you could order them bare bones without all the electronics and controllers so they can be tuned I would entertain the idea of owning one. That is how they need to be in order to get back to the C5 and C6 roots. Heat, AC, Radio, and Analog gauges...get rid of all the digital BS and offer a simplified track car. Why do you need all that if it is a "track car"? The roots of a ZL1 and Z06 were not well equipped cars with wireless charging, ball sack coolers, and a dash that lights up like a EDM concert.
Either way I respect your opinion and have no doubts it's going to be a helluva car. GM is moving the direction they feel is necessary. Some will like it others won't. You can't please everyone...
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Well, there's no question the Corvette has evolved from a luxury standpoint but its because Corvette owners and the media demanded it. Remember how the C4, C5 and C6 use to get so much negativity for their cheap and dated looking interiors. GM is responding with higher quality material and more creature comforts to appease the masses.
I still think the Z06 is going to feel very quick, I can only speak on behalf of the C8 Stingray Z51 we owned. It felt very quick even for 500hp, and torque rating wasn't much higher than the Z06. If the Z06 revs as quick as they make it out, and with the right gearing and a DCT tuned to be very responsive, I don't think anyone will miss the torque numbers of the previous LT4, LT5 and LT2. I feel confident that GM has been very careful not to miss the mark with this vehicle. Probably the only thing some may still wish to have is a manual trans for those that like to row their own gears.
Before we sold our C8, I had a tough decision to make if I wanted to sell my modded ZL1 and keep the C8 Stingray. I ultimately decided that I needed just a bit more power than the C8 Stingray could offer. If I had not previously owned a 1000hp Hellcat, and if I hadn't owned a modded ZL1, I could have been perfectly happy with the C8 Stingray as we had it, lighter wheels and catback exhaust. But there's a certain level of G-Force that I need to feel and the C8 just didn't give as much of it as my ZL1 did. Knowing the ZL1 was already boosted makes it easier to add more power if needed and the limited tuning of the C8 Stingray is what finally made my decision. Early rumors of a 620hp Z06 didn't appeal to me much but 670hp is mighty tempting even if I can't really mod it. I feel like the C8 platform being mid engine, wider wheels and tires could probably put down 800hp to the ground rather easily.